Re: [lp-ca-on] Reminder: Mumble meeting tomorrow, Sun 24 July 2016 at 6:00pm

[Bob Jonkman]

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Hi all: I've finally finished the summary of July's meeting below,
also available at
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Meeting_Notes/LibrePlanet_Ontario_2016-07-24_Meeting_Notes

And a quick reminder that our next Mumble meeting is next Wednesday,
24 August 2016 at 9:00pm EDT

And another reminder that Software Freedom Day is exactly one month
away, on Saturday, 17 September 2016.

- --Bob.

On 2016-07-25 04:06 PM, Bob Jonkman wrote:
> Audio files are now available at http://podcasts.libreplanet.ca/
> 
> I said I would write a summary of the meeting, but today' been too
> busy.
> 
> --Bob.

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== LibrePlanet Ontario 2016-07-24 Meeting Notes ==
Podcast permalink:
http://podcasts.libreplanet.ca/LibrePlanetOntario-2016-07-24.ogg

Participants: Greg Knittl, Bob Jonkman, Sergio Durigan Junior, Stephen
Paul Weber, Blaise Alleyne, Daniel Villarreal

== Domain names ==
* Bob Jonkman and Sergio Durigan Jr. have arranged domain name
redirection:
** podcasts.libreplanet.ca is now a CNAME for libreplanet.sobac.com
** http://libreplaneton.ca/ now redirects to
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario

== Software Freedom Day 2016 ==
(Saturday, 17 September 2016)
* Venue?
** Raul Suarez may have a venue in Kitchener-Waterloo
** Stephen Paul Weber can arrange Kwartzlab as a venue
* Some concern about target audience:
** Outreach for entry level presentations?
** Technical presentations for hard-core GNU/Linux users?
** Demonstrations fall in between, appeal to neither
** Everyone has seen "What is Free Software" presentation, but needed
for new people
** Outreach needed for people who have no understanding of Free
Software and Free Culture at all
*** People don't know that Freedom exists
*** This is our target audience!
*** People don't know that software can be made to do what they want,
it's not like a microwave
** Software comparisons may not be an effective way to promote Free
Software
** How to talk philosophy? More important, how to attract new people?
* Our theme will be "How to convince people that Free Software exists,
is legal, and is available to ordinary people"
* To attract new people we can work on the streets, attracting passersby
** Go to where people are, don't expect them to come to us
** People who come to rooms are already the converted
** Stephen Paul Weber does "Libre Streets" for Free Culture
** Blaise Alleyne does campus outreach
* Can have a room event as a follow up after street outreach
** Answer questions like "How do you make money?", "Is it legal?"
* University campus is more welcoming than a street corner for street
activism
** Follow-up venue can be at a nearby coffee shop
* Need some brochures to remind street teamers of core points, also a
take-along item for people
* Three prong event:
:# Prep the street team with talking points, &c.
:# Go on the street to communicate the message of Software Freedom,
and invite people to:
:# Follow up event with a presentation, Q&A
* Request an e-mail address for follow-up
** E-mail is good for in-depth follow-up, people don't give up their
e-mail address easily
** Discussion mailing list, not a newsletter or announcement list
** If there are few signups (10) then a personal follow may be better
than a list
* Needs followup, perhaps a Mumble meeting just for SFD

== Tax software ==
* Gregg Knittl has followed up with CRA
** still asking questions
** trying to find out what information CRA has for developers
* Need: Defining and capturing tax calculation
** Crowdsource them? Too much for Gregg Knittl to do himself
** Gregg Knittl thinks CRA will not provide the tax calculations, will
only verify a developed program
** Forms like T1 are available, we may need to extract calculations
from these
* Wiki page has been updated:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/FLCTPSP
* Gregg Knittl is waiting to receive test cases from CRA
* If tax software cannot be made with source code available then we
may need to switch to political lobbying rather than writing softare
* Bob Jonkman's accountant was not interested in getting Free Software
tax software, already uses proprietary software

== Other stuff ==
* Stephen Paul Weber's book has been featured on https://unglue.it/

== More SFD ==
* Gregg Knittl suggests People might be interested in Privacy, Encryption
** Other tools, eg. Raw Therapee
** Bob Jonkman has done several presentations on security, privacy and
encryption (at last year's SFD)
* Blaise Alleyne suggests using the Wiki and mailing list to organize
SFD, no Mumble meeting
* Bob Jonkman and Daniel Villarreal discuss strategies for attracting
people to SFD

== Text Channel ==
<pre>
[8:50 PM] Welcome to Mumble.
[8:50 PM] Connecting to server libreplanetbr.org.
[8:50 PM] Connected.
[8:50 PM] Welcome message:
Welcome to this server running Murmur.
Enjoy your stay!


[9:23 PM] Daniel: hi
[9:23 PM] Daniel: yes
[9:24 PM] Daniel: Daniel Villarreal here.
[9:24 PM] Daniel: howdy howdy
[9:38 PM] Daniel: event + message + enthusiasm = ?
[9:38 PM] sergiodj: guys, I guess I'll have to step out unfortunately.
sorry about that.
[9:38 PM] Daniel: bye
[9:39 PM] balleyne: later
[9:39 PM] sergiodj: bob, just to make sure, what is the domain that
the cname should be pointing to?
[9:39 PM] BobJonkman: Thanx Sergio! TTYL
[9:39 PM] BobJonkman: libreplanet.sobac.com
[9:39 PM] sergiodj: thanks
[9:39 PM] sergiodj: alright, ttyl!
[9:39 PM] BobJonkman: so podcasts.libreplanet.ca => libreplanet.sobac.com
[9:50 PM] Daniel: maybe IRC chat?
[9:53 PM] Daniel: I wouldn't bother asking for email addresses.
[9:53 PM] Daniel: You're asking for commitment.
[9:56 PM] singpolyma: give people the opportunity that fits them
specifically best
[9:57 PM] Daniel: Nope.
[9:59 PM] Daniel: Were the tax people forthcoming and easy to
communicate with ?
[9:59 PM] Daniel: lol
[10:00 PM] Daniel: maybe you can ask them for a flowchart?
[10:01 PM] Daniel: Can't hurt to ask?
[10:01 PM] Daniel: ok
[10:01 PM] Daniel: definitely
[10:02 PM] Daniel: I think there's a lot of interest, but it's a
daunting task.
[10:02 PM] BobJonkman:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/FLCTPSP
[10:02 PM] Daniel: Thanks for your efforts
[10:13 PM] singpolyma:
https://libreplanet.org/wiki/Group:LibrePlanet_Ontario/Software_Freedom_Day_2016
[10:17 PM] singpolyma: I expect most software gets >60% rewritten
every year
[10:17 PM] singpolyma: s/software/tax software
[10:18 PM] BobJonkman: https://quitter.no/notice/1974053
[10:20 PM] Daniel: thanks all.
[10:20 PM] singpolyma: Fun fact unrelated to the discussion: my
children's book got randomly featured on https://unglue.it/ !
[10:24 PM] balleyne: we're pushing 10:30, I've gotta run very soon!
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: I like async for sure. so long as we actually
do it ;)
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: sync forces us to act
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: For sure
[10:26 PM] singpolyma: agreed
[10:27 PM] Daniel: thanks. good night
[10:27 PM] Daniel: uh huh.
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