Re: [Libreplanet-dev] wiki updates

[John Sullivan]

Peter <address@hidden> writes:

> Hi,
>
> I'd like to create a category for the 2009 comments and turn it into a news 
> page. We can add a comment option to the LP09 menu so ppl can see the event 
> and read/add comments. This is also latest news, so we can turn the category 
> into a 'news page' and link to it from the Latest News thread. When the news 
> becomes old, we can simply remove the link from latest news and everything 
> else will be unchanged. Attendees can write their comments in their user page 
> and categorize it. I'm thinking Category:LibrePlanet2009/Comments (or perhaps 
> News), so it will be a subcategory to LibrePlanet2009.
>
> I am getting a sense we need to provide more structure, so users will feel 
> more confident about creating pages. I would like to move all the LP09 pages 
> into the LibrePlanet2009 tree, but mysql crashes whenever I try. This means 
> the schedule page (and subpages) plus all the user notes etc. should be under 
> the NFS, HPP, Activism, and unconference subtrees. My patches would be 
> perfect for this (it will move the page and all subpages). However, to get 
> real control over the wiki, we should upgrade it (I think its 1.5.3 which is 
> very old).
>

MySQL is crashing due to an issue with long page names that overlap with
other page names. I think this is fixed in newer versions but for the
time being it is a good reason to rely more on categories and
abbreviations (like LP09) in page names rather than have
LibrePlanet2009/Foo/Bar etc.

Rather than subpages for this can we use categories?

> My feeling here is that when users edit for events they should use their User 
> page when they're not part of the group, and the group page when they are. 
> This will ensure only group members edit the group pages, but other users can 
> contribute via the group's categories, e.g. Category:LibrePLanet2009 and 
> LP09. The group pages are formally structured, but users can structure their 
> User pages as they like. This means the notes for LP09 should be moved into 
> the LibrePlanet tree for members of the LibrePlanet group (not all FSF 
> members), while others moved to their User page.
>

That probably makes sense in other cases, but for this conference we
openly invited everyone to keep notes on the speakers on the main pages,
so we don't need to apply that in this case.

I could also see different groups having different policies about this,
and I wonder how well Mediawiki will support that.

> I would also like to move the LibrePlanet2009 page to a subpage of 
> LibrePlanet, so we can start building group content. The session info could 
> be moved into the Project and worked on there, if necessary. This is 
> specifically the kind of info I think should be under project management. 
> This will leave the group pages free from session talk, but still linked to 
> it.
>

Please consider the whole wiki to be LibrePlanet, as that is what we are
working toward, rather than have LibrePlanet be a subpage of Groups.

> All the accommodation details should be moved into separate threads and 
> categorized, so other meetings can use the structure instead of polluting 
> their meeting page.
>

Accommodation details like hotel and venue info you mean? I agree with
that.

> I am very disappointed I could not attend, but I tried to figure out and give 
> the wiki some cohesion. Did anyone get any comments on the state of the wiki 
> and what could be done better?

I'm sorry you couldn't make it. Next year I hope. We have not received
much feedback on the wiki, other than that we should use more categories
and less "/namespace".

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John Sullivan
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