The sneer project work with a web of trust. Your data won't be sitting in some random person's computer, but in the shared space a friend of yours made available to you. The data will be heavily encrypted (not yet implemented) so he won't have direct access to it.
Using fredomboxes for a more secure environment to create our own private cloud with our friends makes it harder for our data being cracked.
Anyhow, I think it would be better to trust my friends for sharing storage and processing than some random guy in some big company.
--- On Wed, 7/25/12, Ziv Leyes <zivley@gmail.com> wrote:
From: Ziv Leyes <zivley@gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Alternatives to closed, non-free webmail
services?
To: "libreplanet-discuss" <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
Date: Wednesday, July 25, 2012, 8:50 AM
Those ideas about hardware sharing like SETI@Home sounds great! The only problem is that for a social network I don't believe many users would like to know their pictures and personal data is sitting in someone's private home PC and that this info may get hacked and leaked very easily.
Let's say the data is very well protected and there is impossible for a regular user to make use of it, something like containing only varied chunks of info that are not related to each other and no info can be gathered from those chunks unless you have access to all the rest of the chunks that make a whole piece of info.
You will still need some sort of server that will rule them all, some place to host a domain, and run a server, the one that knows how and where from to bring the chunks of info needed to retrieve and display the user with the info they're requesting, so who's gonna pay for it?
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You may want to take look at the sneer project. www.sneer.me
It doesn't solve all the "hardware sharing" problems, but it's a start. With it we may start learning more about the hardware sharing challenges.
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"Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak" <rysiek@fwioo.pl> escreveu:
Dnia wtorek, 24 lipca 2012 o 22:57:45 Robert Martinez napisał(a):
> On 24/07/12 22:34, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
> > Dnia wtorek, 24 lipca 2012 o 22:27:53 Robert Martinez napisał(a):
> >> Nobody "owns" xmpp, mail, status.net, friendica, ...
> >
> > But somebody owns Twitter, Facebook, etc...
>
> Stop using the services and replace it with alternatives.
Doing exactly that myself, but the point stands and is valid.
More and more infrastructure is in fact owned by corporations that use
it to create walled gardens and strip users off control over their
data or privacy.
> (Or steal Facebook and share it among the people!1!!)
> That problem seems solved.
>
> >> We can do this in "isolation".
> >>
> >> We don't have to learn how to share hardware. (I guess it works
> >> just like with all other physical objects)
> >
> > Well, SETI@Home has a way of sharing hardware; BitTorrent and
> > other p2p protocols are a way to share hardware. I think we
> > could find a way to extend these ideas further.
>
> If I'm not mistaken both projects/protocols rely on NOT sharing
> hardware, but bandwidth and computation power.
> What does Seti do when there is no hardware @Home?
> What is the point of p2p if there is just one giant peer?
If I had a social network that run on a distrubuted system that run on
a p2p/SETI@Home-like infrastructure supported by users and their
unused cycles, bandwidth and disk-space; if I had a Dropbox
replacement like that - I would have two killer apps, two fantastic
tools that would, in fact, let me control my data
while at the same
time would not require me to be a sysadmin that can set-up ownCloud
and Diaspora pod myself.
That's my point.
I believe we have the technology (e.g. hadoop), we just need to get it
together and roll it out.
I believe it would be a better way - a more effective way - than
Freedom Box. Freedom Box, while being a great project I really admire,
needs people to buy new equipment and run it in their homes.
If running such system would require a simple app download and
entering username and password, chances of it picking up would be
enormously enlarged. And I don't think anybody would have a problem
with donating some of their bandwidth, disk-space, RAM and CPU cycles
to such a system. Just look how many people run TOR nodes, SETI@Home
and p2p. The general idea is the same.
So, FreedomBox@Home anyone? ;)
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