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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Alternatives to closed, non-free webmail servi


From: Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Alternatives to closed, non-free webmail services?
Date: Tue, 24 Jul 2012 23:45:52 +0200
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Dnia wtorek, 24 lipca 2012 o 22:57:45 Robert Martinez napisał(a):
> On 24/07/12 22:34, Michał 'rysiek' Woźniak wrote:
> > Dnia wtorek, 24 lipca 2012 o 22:27:53 Robert Martinez napisał(a):
> >> Nobody "owns" xmpp, mail, status.net, friendica, ...
> > 
> > But somebody owns Twitter, Facebook, etc...
> 
> Stop using the services and replace it with alternatives.

Doing exactly that myself, but the point stands and is valid.

More and more infrastructure is in fact owned by corporations that use 
it to create walled gardens and strip users off control over their 
data or privacy.

> (Or steal Facebook and share it among the people!1!!)
> That problem seems solved.
> 
> >> We can do this in "isolation".
> >> 
> >> We don't have to learn how to share hardware. (I guess it works
> >> just like with all other physical objects)
> > 
> > Well, SETI@Home has a way of sharing hardware; BitTorrent and
> > other p2p protocols are a way to share hardware. I think we
> > could find a way to extend these ideas further.
> 
> If I'm not mistaken both projects/protocols rely on NOT sharing
> hardware, but bandwidth and computation power.
> What does Seti do when there is no hardware @Home?
> What is the point of p2p if there is just one giant peer?

If I had a social network that run on a distrubuted system that run on 
a p2p/SETI@Home-like infrastructure supported by users and their 
unused cycles, bandwidth and disk-space; if I had a Dropbox 
replacement like that - I would have two killer apps, two fantastic 
tools that would, in fact, let me control my data while at the same 
time would not require me to be a sysadmin that can set-up ownCloud 
and Diaspora pod myself.

That's my point.

I believe we have the technology (e.g. hadoop), we just need to get it 
together and roll it out.

I believe it would be a better way - a more effective way - than 
Freedom Box. Freedom Box, while being a great project I really admire, 
needs people to buy new equipment and run it in their homes.

If running such system would require a simple app download and 
entering username and password, chances of it picking up would be 
enormously enlarged. And I don't think anybody would have a problem 
with donating some of their bandwidth, disk-space, RAM and CPU cycles 
to such a system. Just look how many people run TOR nodes, SETI@Home 
and p2p. The general idea is the same.

So, FreedomBox@Home anyone? ;)

-- 
Pozdrawiam
Michał "rysiek" Woźniak

Fundacja Wolnego i Otwartego Oprogramowania

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