Re: purism why does fsf and libreplanet embrace a misleading company?

[Akshai M]

   I second that. There is no conclusive evidence to prove the allegations
   I see.
   ..
   On Thu, 12 Mar 2020 at 22:54, Aaron Wolf <[1]wolftune@riseup.net>
   wrote:

     It would help if you state (or link) the specific concerns about
     Purism
     separately from the judgments. Surely someone has collected the
     examples
     so that people can see for themselves. People unfamiliar will not
     accept
     an unknown source just leveling accusations.
     The thread you linked to is more of the same problem. It starts with
     people saying "fraud" and other accusations and has back and forth
     about
     it all. It's not trivial to parse that conversation. If this is as
     important as you feel it is, please help us out by consolidating the
     concerns in a way that newcomers to the issue can readily process.
     Thanks
     On 2020-03-11 23:46, a via libreplanet-discuss wrote:
     > This post is directed at officials from libreplanet
     > and fsf.
     >
     > I wrote this post on trisquel's forum. Also available on
     >
     [2]https://paste.nolsen.xyz/?98e7462461e8a46c#8YchW86Fn3UvkxdHbfN74c
     VVoYkFqCGWCx2tWVX5uvZJ
     > [3]https://libreplanet.org/2020/speakers/#2464
     > [4]https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v10/
     > [5]https://trisquel.info/en/forum/librem13-fully-free-time
     > In more than one rss, fsf has made favorable comments
     > about purism and their products.
     >
     > It is documented that purism from the beginning has
     > been either amateurish ignorant or plain liars
     > about what how free software their products would become. They
     > have continuously made people believe their
     > products would stand a change of getting ryf
     > approval from fsf. I and likely others have emailed fsf
     > on the matter. No effect.
     > What is it about fsf? Does it get money or hardware from
     > purism? It takes one email to libreboot or replicant to
     > get the facts straight.
     > If you are a fsf official, then comment on this post.
     >
     > When people have mentioned purism products favorable, then
     > I have told them the above. People have not been able
     > to counter my arguments. Still almost always, they have
     > defended purism. How does it look, when you are calling purism
     > out and at the same time fsf displays approval and
     > endorsement of purism?
     >
     > If fsf thinks it has to mention the librem 5 on its website,
     > then you are required to tell, how purism have mislead people.
     >
     > My understanding is, purism has been allowed to present its
     > products in the vicinity of libreplanet. A wrong decision. Now
     > libreplanet has given purism a libreplanet talk. What a peak
     > of incompetence from libreplanet.
     > Libreplanet cancel the talk. If you are attending the talk,
     > then interrupt the talk. Confront the speaker with their
     > history of misleading people.
     >
     >
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References

   1. mailto:wolftune@riseup.net
   2. 
https://paste.nolsen.xyz/?98e7462461e8a46c#8YchW86Fn3UvkxdHbfN74cVVoYkFqCGWCx2tWVX5uvZJ
   3. https://libreplanet.org/2020/speakers/#2464
   4. https://www.fsf.org/givingguide/v10/
   5. https://trisquel.info/en/forum/librem13-fully-free-time
   6. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
   7. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss
   8. mailto:libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
   9. https://lists.libreplanet.org/mailman/listinfo/libreplanet-discuss