Re: Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free Software?

[Paul Sutton]

I get the same impression,  the 4 freedoms are universal,  we just 
provide the software, it is up to the end user how they use it.

Paul

> My comment is simply that by *MY* understanding of the GPL (and similar 
> licenses) is that there is nothing in the terms that would ALLOW any efforts to 
> limit the Russian access to Free Software.  Copyleft is a two edged sword in 
> this regard, it makes it easier for people we like to get software, but also 
> means we can't take it away from those that we don't like...
>
> Even the few North Koreans that are allowed computers can use highly modified 
> versions of GNU/Linux that have been set up to limit the ability to access the 
> outside world...  (I'm told the source is available but not many want it...)
>
> ART
> ------------------
> Arthur Torrey - <arthur_torrey@comcast.net>
> -------------------
>
> > On 02/24/2022 12:57 PM gregor <podrzaj.gregor@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >   
> > hi all. here is what i feel.
> >
> > war is something, where banks win and people loose. i hoped FSF was not
> > a politically oriented organization.
> >
> > makes me sad, seeing how FSF rushes to be "politically correct" in the
> > world run by propaganda machines.
> >
> > agitprop is what i see, which is to say it obviouslly works.
> >
> > to make it clear, i am not the side of some country nor some army nor
> > some soldiers (poor souls, not to mention civilians), but on the side of
> > peace. once someone during a war takes side, he/she becomes a soldier.
> >
> > sad is what i am.
> >
> > yt
> >
> > g
> >
> > ps
> >
> > live by the sword die by the sword is what bible says
> >
> > On 24. 02. 22 18:43, Arthur Torrey wrote:
> > > Much as we might want to shut off the Russians, I don't think this is something 
> > > that the GPL type licenses allow...  This has come up time and time again in 
> > > regards to limiting access to all sorts of other undesirables, and the bottom 
> > > line is that as long as they are complying w/ the licenses (i.e. copylefting 
> > > changes, etc.) they can't be cut off...
> > >
> > > An ironic / amusing question I remember being raised a while back: Is the 
> > > question about if Free Software is used in a 'smart' weapon, (smart bomb 
> > > guidance system, drone, etc.); and an intact device falls into the hands of the 
> > > enemy, does that count as 'distribution' and entitle the enemy to demand the 
> > > corresponding source code?
> > >
> > > ART
> > >
> > > ================
> > > Date: Thu, 24 Feb 2022 08:04:30 +0000
> > > From: Jacob Hrbek <kreyren@rixotstudio.cz>
> > > To: Leah Rowe via libreplanet-discuss
> > >         <libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org>
> > > Subject: Should we take steps to reduce russian access to Free
> > >         Software?
> > > Message-ID: <25b59d57-597d-4ef4-9e93-2c067a1d81fc@rixotstudio.cz>
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> > >
> > > Today russian forces invaded ukraine and started an unprovoked war with
> > > free software being used across russia and in the government thus
> > > playing a major role in russia's war capabilities.
> > >
> > > Should we and can we take steps to prevent/reduce russia's access to our
> > > software?
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ------------------
> > > Arthur Torrey - <arthur_torrey@comcast.net>
> > > -------------------
> > >
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