Re: sa-iast.mim: About the updates in https://github.com/indic-transliteration/m17n-db-indic

[Mike FABIAN]

"विश्वासो वासुकिजः (Vishvas Vasuki)" <vishvas.vasuki@gmail.com> さんはかきました:

> On Thu, 24 Aug 2023 at 18:19, Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com> wrote:
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>> "विश्वासो वासुकिजः (Vishvas Vasuki)" <vishvas.vasuki@gmail.com> さんはかきました:
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>> Should something about these Vedic accents be added to the description?:
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> I think that the link suffices.
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>> Is it intentional that
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>>     ("U''" "ṹ")
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>> produces ṹ" U+01E79 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH TILDE AND ACUTE?
>> Not Ṹ U+1E78 LATIN CAPITAL LETTER U WITH TILDE AND ACUTE?
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> Yes, I found that convenient. However, if more regular IAST users think
> otherwise, their opinion should be privileged.
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>> And here, typing `` seems to add a grave accent in most cases
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>>   ("a``" "á")
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>   ("i``" "ì")
>>   ("u``" "ù")
>>   ("uu``" "ṹ")
>>   ("U``" "ṹ")
>>   ("e``" "è")
>>   ("o``" "ò")
>>
>> except for a``, uu``, and U`` which add acute accents. Is that OK?
>>

> This seems reverse compared to others! should be fixed.

Like this?:

    +  ("``" "̀") ; U+0300 COMBINING GRAVE ACCENT
    +  ("''" "́") ; U+0301 COMBINING ACUTE ACCENT
    +  ("a''" "á") ; U+00E1 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH ACUTE
    +  ("i''" "í") ; U+00ED LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH ACUTE
    +  ("u''" "ú") ; U+00FA LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH ACUTE
    +  ("uu''" "ṹ") ; U+1E79 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH TILDE AND ACUTE
    +  ("U''" "ṹ") ; U+1E79 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH TILDE AND ACUTE
    +  ("e''" "é") ; U+00E9 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH ACUTE
    +  ("o''" "ó") ; U+00F3 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH ACUTE
    +  ("a``" "à") ; U+00E0 LATIN SMALL LETTER A WITH GRAVE
    +  ("i``" "ì") ; U+00EC LATIN SMALL LETTER I WITH GRAVE
    +  ("u``" "ù") ; U+00F9 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH GRAVE
    +  ("uu``" "ũ̀") ; U+0169 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH TILDE U+0300 COMBINING 
GRAVE ACCENT
    +  ("U``" "ũ̀") ; U+0169 LATIN SMALL LETTER U WITH TILDE U+0300 COMBINING 
GRAVE ACCENT
    +  ("e``" "è") ; U+00E8 LATIN SMALL LETTER E WITH GRAVE
    +  ("o``" "ò") ; U+00F2 LATIN SMALL LETTER O WITH GRAVE

Looking at this, I am beginning to think that Dominik Wujastyk’s idea to
put that into a separate file sa-iast-vedic.mim is probably better.

Because one might want to use ' as apostrophes or single quotes and one
might also want to use ` to quote something.

In the additions above, `` and '' are used only in pairs, so one can
still type something like 'f' `f` easily by pressing them only once.

So it might be OK. But it might also cause confusion when pressing them
twice accidentally.

I am not sure. What shall we do?

- just add this to sa-iast.mim
- make a separate file sa-iast-vedic.mim
- add this to sa-iast.mim as an option which is disabled by default:
    
    (variable
     (enable-vedic-accentgs
      (_"If this variable is 0 (the default), vedic accents are disabled.
    If this variable is set to 1, Vedic accents can be typed using the
    postfixes '' and ``.")
      0 0 1)) ; ((NAME [DESCRIPTION DEFAULT-VALUE VALID-VALUE ...])

    and then add a conditional below to add the Vedic accents only when
    that variable is 1.

I leave that for you to decide, Dominik and Vishvas!

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Mike FABIAN <mfabian@redhat.com>
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