Re: Closer to Scheme in ROM

[Eng. Stewart Jay Milberger]

> Please forgive me not remembering to 'reply-all' yesterday, I woke up 
in the clothes I fell asleep in, for reference.

Omitting the detail that I was in front of a computer, but the point has 
been made.  I am still in the same clothes, but now freshly washed.

> (4 microseconds)

I thought would be good Knuth response, actually quite kind, as an 
answer "Do you have a couple of hours to talk about algorithms?"

That made me think how that could be abstracted with a variable ',units 
in Scmutils, when...Darth Internet...

Dante, speak not to me of Hell; Hugo, speak not to me of Quasimoto; 
luxury! compared to living and working on the 'net. "Breaky" and 
"non-performant-y", and "crashy-crashy" are now technical terms for why 
we keep Scheme around (and of course, the inferior Common Lisp and Dylan).

I don't know who replied to this thread personally (my tacit agreement 
with the world is "I don't know you, you don't know me" [1]), thank you 
for your alms to old Quasimoto here.  However, I have been acting in 
earnst--and realized we have hope for the ideas of Thomas and all 
Schemers and Lispers coexisting.  Viz S...O...S...the object system in 
MIT Scheme.

https://www.gnu.org/software/mit-scheme/documentation/stable/mit-scheme-sos.html

I wasn't even going to return here, but I found the C-style cast git 
commit in the microcode, and remembered, "I don't know why people who 
enjoy programming in Scheme would ever want to patch code in C."  Mr. Wu 
[I will sign an affidavit to attest that I don't know him, if 
requested.] made a fine contribution to the literature about how this 
could be accomplished, Scheme-86. Compromises, excuses, technical debt 
pushed to the future..leading to the world we have in general.

If you see me walking around Cambridge with a broom or a rake, it is to 
protect me from the feral dogs, as well as a protest to lawn mowers, 
leaf blowers, and Concorde Deux.  "Why not biplanes?", is the working 
slogan Dylan/Thomas Labs, unincorporated.

-- Stew J.

[1] Conversation with an old friend from Columbia about what to do with 
his aerospace degree, and the folly of trying to apply it to improved 
aviation safety in a concrete, rather than abstract way.

On 6/28/22 6:15 PM, Stewart J. Milberger wrote:
> "Star* MMXXII: A New Hope"
>
> https://github.com/pablomarx/Thomas
>
> Please forgive me not remembering to 'reply-all' yesterday, I woke up 
> in the clothes I fell asleep in, for reference.
>
> > Is there a canonical VM instruction set for Dylan? I'd expect 
> > something simulataneously Smalltalk and Lisp flavored.
>
> They are using code derived from that the Functional Objects company 
> developed, now free software.  The original compiler is the DFMC, and 
> had either native code via their HARP abstract RISC machine or 
> portable C.  This seems similar to what MIT Scheme has, but I think 
> MIT Scheme has a VM option now.
>
> Peter Housel at Open Dylan has done a lot of work getting the DFMC 
> connected to the LLVM toolchain, similar to Juila.
>
> > Could we hope for Open Dylan to revive this syntax and support it as 
> > an alternative to the infix one?
>
> I'm doing a 6 month project called Dylan/Thomas Labs to look into it, 
> as I would like Scheme to coexist with Dylan.  Hope is about all I 
> have done so far.
>
> Some papers on Dylan, Housel's 2020 paper has a diagram of the flow 
> compiler (pg. 2).
>
> https://opendylan.org/documentation/publications.html