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Re: [Pan-users] Maybe solution of watched color dispute?
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Duncan |
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Re: [Pan-users] Maybe solution of watched color dispute? |
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Mon, 16 Dec 2002 14:51:51 -0700 |
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On Mon 16 Dec 2002 00:36, Tim Day posted as excerpted below:
> *** New Pan user de-lurks ***
>
> I've been using Pan (0.13.2.92) a bit less than a week now, having
> switched (as part of a personal campaign to kick Bill out of the house).
Welcome and congrats on making the switch. I did that, rather than switch to
eXPrivacy, about time it came out, just over a year ago now.
> I've been using the watch/ignore feature a lot: after I visit one of my
> regular NGs, I will probably have classified all the threads into one or
> the other category. However, there are some pieces missing which I
> think would make the watch/ignore classification a LOT more useful than
> it is at the moment.
>
> What I'd really really really like to see is:
> In the "Groups" display:
> - An additional column giving the number of "watched unread" posts.
> - Posts in "Ignored" threads should be exactly that, and not contribute
> to the "Unread" and "Total" counts for a group.
>
> In the "Headers" display:
> - The ability to sort on thread classification so that all the posts in
> watched threads rise to the top and the ignored ones sink to the
> bottom.
>
> And generally:
> - As Gollum suggests above, individual control over the display style
> of each combination of watched/unclassified/ignored vs read/unread
> (including control of bold/italic as well as colour) would be real nice.
> - On the "Newsgroups" menu, an option halfway between "Get New Headers"
> and "Get New Headers and Bodies" which just gets the bodies for watched
> threads.
>
> Apologies if I'm actually completely missing the point of watch/ignore
> here...
I think you hit it on the head. Together, those sub-features would make the
watch/ignore functionality far more useful. I think what we are doing here,
however, is taking the "step at a time" approach. As is, for me, anyway, the
fact that I can't visually distinguish read/unread in watched threads is a
show-stopper for that feature, the way I use a newsreader. Once that
changes, the feature would be useful enough that I'd start using it, and
could then appreciate the other changes you mention, should they come to
pass.
As for ignored... I'd seldom use that anyway, as long as it's thread
operative, because I've found threads mutate to something interesting without
changing the subject header often enough that I can't safely ignore an entire
thread. Now, if there were some sort of magic "kill posts by this author but
only for this thread" functionality, I might find THAT useful. I don't
killfile folks very often, but would find it useful to do so on some
subjects/threads, while still getting their posts on other subjects/threads.
Of course, the planned "scoring" feature will eventually help a lot in this
regard, as I could set such author's scores such that they just barely show
up normally, and then lower the score on a thread such that most posts get
through, but those from already borderline authors do not. As I said, that
sort of scoring functionality is scheduled, but not yet implemented, nor has
it been seriously discussed, yet, as that's still a bit in the future, AFAIK.
--
Duncan
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little
temporary safety, deserve neither liberty nor safety." --
Benjamin Franklin