[Pan-users] Re: Pan gui application disappears

[Duncan]

Forever Kid <address@hidden> posted
address@hidden, excerpted below, on
Sun, 29 Oct 2006 17:10:43 -0800:

> Everyone is raving about the  all-new Yahoo! Mail.For some reason Pan
> (0.14.2) disappears after a few hours.&nbsp; In other words the gui
> application just goes away.&nbsp; Other applications running such as
> firefox are unaffected.&nbsp; I am running gentoo v2.6.17-gentoo-r8 with
> gnome (2.14.2).<br><br>I am having a heck of a time trying to
> troubleshoot this.&nbsp; Any help would be greatly
> appreciated.<br><br>Thanks,<br>foreverkid<br><p>&#32;

First, I understand you might not be aware of it, but please kill the HTML
when posting to this group. Pan doesn't do HTML as while it's fine on the
web, in mail and news it's the tool of spammers and crackers, and the
AOLer types that simply know no better.  Please honor the concept and at
least turn it off when posting to the pan list (if you /must/ use it
elsewhere).

Addressing your problem... You are apparently seeing a segfault for some
reason. pan crashes and disappears.  If you run pan from a terminal
window, you may see some sort of error message when it dies.  However, pan
0.14.x is now an abandoned development branch and won't see any further
bug tracing or fixes, so unless you have some skill in the area of
debugging and wish to try to fix it, it's simply not worth worrying about
at this point.

pan 0.117 is the current beta tarball and ~arch level ebuild on Gentoo,
which I also use (~amd64 here), and I've been running the weekly betas for
some time so know they are relatively stable now.  I'd encourage you to
upgrade to it.  Be aware, however, that you'll want to ensure you are
using gcc 4.1.1 (latest stable) to compile new-pan (new-pan referring to
any version beyond the first C++ release, 0.90, as I said, it's 0.117 now),
as gcc 3.4.6 has a bug that causes it to require HUGE amounts of memory,
nearly a gig on x86, well over a gig on amd64, to compile new-pan, at
least if you attempt to use anything above -O1 optimization.  4.1.1 is far
more reasonable, a couple hundred MB only (amd64), tho that's bad enough.

Also be aware that pan 1.0, the first officially stable version of
new-pan, is literally just around the corner -- it's likely this week. 
Thus, expect to upgrade to it shortly, or simply wait for it if you prefer.

New-pan works somewhat differently than old-pan.  If you do binaries on
either large groups or multiple servers, new-pan should be VASTLY better
for you, as it scales VASTLY better in terms of resource usage, and
automates multiple server handling now.  Take a look at the archives if
you want more detail, as I've posted two quite detailed rundowns already
in the last 24 hours or so, but there are some significant differences
mainly related to the new multi-server handling that it'll take some
getting used to if you've been running old-pan for awhile.

-- 
Duncan - List replies preferred.   No HTML msgs.
"Every nonfree program has a lord, a master --
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