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[Pan-users] clarifications (Re: changing your underscores; some old pro


From: SciFi
Subject: [Pan-users] clarifications (Re: changing your underscores; some old problems coming back (Re: updated info))
Date: Fri, 6 Aug 2010 03:25:24 +0000 (UTC)
User-agent: Pan/0.133 (House of Butterflies; GIT dacba02 testing)


Hi again,

Thanks for the discussion on these items I've raised.
I feel I need to clarify some things, if I may.

On the word-wrap:
We need Pan to stop mucking with the way the original
texts were posted, when quoting those texts.
Unless "someone" actively decides to muck with it.
Period.  ;)
There was no way at all I could stop Pan/GTK/whatever
from doing it to the piece I quoted before -- but
remember I said it was being REVERSE word-wrapped,
which is sometimes an odd act to perform on one line
and not any others, see.  N.B. the wrapped line was
done by the time Pan showed its own Reply panel,
whether or not anything was added to the text by
whatever means.
FYI I usually hand-off what I type to a freeware OSX
app known as TextWranger (which I've mentioned in the
past on my postings here; it is available at
http://www.barebones.com/ ; this editor has been
expressly designed to interact with (most?) *ix apps
as well as OSX apps, as it has a few CLI parts we can
use in regular scripts etc.; has built-in spellcheck,
colorized computer language syntaxes, its own rules
for wordwrapping, some "smart quotes" translations
[e.g. change "this" to “this”], and lots more).
Also FYI if the badly-wrapped text is easy to fix, I
will do it in the editor.  Otherwise, it is way too
complex to fix, so I probably won't even include the
quoted texts at all (as is the case with this very
reply here: the quoted texts were terrible what with
everyone's multi-layered quotes being wrapped
differently etc).

On the header pane right-most column hiding:
I have "spied" on Pan's prefs.xml file setting for
my chosen "Bytes" column -- Pan changed it every
time to the full width calculation INCLUDING the
vertical scroll-bar, when I cleanly exited/quit Pan.
So the problem showed-up again on the next start
of Pan.
This is the reason I blame Pan instead of the
other parts as was mentioned (GTK/whatever), as
Pan kept rewriting the too-large value into its
own prefs again.
Never-mind even the hand-edited value I had
stuck in there to try thwarting this (yes with
Pan completely quitted at those times).
I don't remember who fixed this problem for the
Date column (I definitely remember Date _was_
fixed in this, once upon a time, however).  I
had always meant to mention that Bytes is
affected as well, and probably other people have
other/different columns pinned at the right-hand
side there as well.  ;)

Sorry this got kinda long again.
I will do a git-pull of your changes,
and give 'em a try.

Thanks (everyone) for putting up with me.






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