Re: [Phpgroupware-users] 0.9.16 Release - is it really stalled?

[Dave Hall]

Hi all,

Thanks lex for explaining things.

I suppose that all users should have been notified about this earlier. 
I am sorry for not sending a post.  Most of the issues have now been
resolved.  The 16 release will now be in the hands of the new
coordination team which will be established shortly.

I am sorry for any inconveince caused by this delay, but we felt the
issues had to raised before the next release.

Cheers

Dave


Alex <address@hidden> wrote:

> This mail is in the user list for phpgw under No Problemo Subject!
> 
> Sorry for the broken thread....this is the info you asked for....
> 
> ----------------------------------------------
> 
> Im probably not the best person to carry this news, there are 
> devels and
> all, but its all been cooled down, everyone is mostly happy and i just
> saw skwashd and ralph speaking about continuing their development and
> fixes for the .16 branch.
> 
> Read the devel list, none of this discussion has been hidden from
> anyone, and anyone was welcome to air an opinion. This was resolved 
> in a
> very beautiful way by exercising incredible goodwill from all 
> parties. 
> 
> Thing is not much users are in the devel list as well - and with good
> reason. But that makes it so that whenever a little problem comes up,
> users dont necesarily have all the info. So read the devel list 
> archivesif you guys want all the gossip. Its the "project 
> structure" thread. Its
> a good example in OSS projects decition making and politics as well...
> enjoy!
> 
> This is the thread in the devel list archives:
> 
> http://mail.gnu.or
> 
> Dont join the discussion if you dont really know whats going on, read
> and learn. This is a serius discussion and at this point, newcommers
> with noisy opinions will certaintly result in flaming to death by 
> hungrychild-eating developers. This is basic netiquette, read the 
> jargon file.
> 
> > It sounds like there is some "bad vibrations" between core team 
> and 
> > developer community, is that right?
> 
> No, not bad vibe at all... it was mostly an argument about project
> organization and how to best deliver stuff to users and how to 
> leveragethe best out of devels, including adding more devels to the 
> project...etc.
> 
> > 
> > And what is happening on that now? I did not find any forum where 
> thePRP 
> > is discussed. The reader is asked to comment on the Proposal, but
> there is 
> > nowhere to comment it.
> 
> Read the phpgw-devel list archives!...:) its free for all!
> 
> > 
> > Everything a bit mysterious, if I may say so. Could the core team 
> andthe 
> > "revolting developers" please state anything more detailled?
> > 
> 
> No such thing! ... as i said, its all available in the lists. If you
> need a digest of all the thread id be more than happy to forward the
> more than 30 messages of the dicussions
> 
> > The time frame for 0.9.16 seems to be postponed (although further 
> downthe 
> > homepage the "old time frame" is still published), but until 
> when? Is
> all 
> > development stopped?
> 
> No, all of the developers are back and working. Most of the issues are
> resolved although some edges need some work still. I was mostly an
> observer in the whole didscussion but it worries me that users are as
> concerned as you are. Its all allright now, read the devel 
> archives..:)
> This is the document that proposes the reestructure of how the work is
> going to go in phpgw:
> 
> http://phpgroupware.org/devteam/wiki/index.php?page=restructure
> 
> It was the document in discussion. That is all, no mistery or nothing.
> The document was open in the wiki and pointed to by a link in the 
> irc'schannel topic. Also, it was publicized in the web page. The 
> devel list's
> archives are allways accesible through the mailing lists link in the
> support section of the webpage.
> 
> non-disclaime
> Im not an active developer, ive been awol for two months or so, so 
> moreactive developers will certaintly have better studied opinions 
> than mine
> in this matter, but i think its important that users have all the info
> to be calm  about this whole thing. 
> 
> > I am looking forward to any clarifying information.
> > 
> > Dirk
> > 
> > 
> > 
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