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Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 07/16] Add new block


From: Dr. David Alan Gilbert
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] [Qemu-block] [PATCH COLO-Block v6 07/16] Add new block driver interface to connect/disconnect the remote target
Date: Wed, 24 Jun 2015 15:07:56 +0100
User-agent: Mutt/1.5.23 (2014-03-12)

* Wen Congyang (address@hidden) wrote:
> At 2015/6/19 18:49, Stefan Hajnoczi Wrote:
> >On Fri, Jun 19, 2015 at 08:54:56AM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>On 06/19/2015 12:06 AM, Stefan Hajnoczi wrote:
> >>>On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 10:36:39PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>>At 2015/6/18 20:55, Stefan Hajnoczi Wrote:
> >>>>>On Thu, Jun 18, 2015 at 04:49:12PM +0800, Wen Congyang wrote:
> >>>>>>+void bdrv_connect(BlockDriverState *bs, Error **errp)
> >>>>>>+{
> >>>>>>+    BlockDriver *drv = bs->drv;
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+    if (drv && drv->bdrv_connect) {
> >>>>>>+        drv->bdrv_connect(bs, errp);
> >>>>>>+    } else if (bs->file) {
> >>>>>>+        bdrv_connect(bs->file, errp);
> >>>>>>+    } else {
> >>>>>>+        error_setg(errp, "this feature or command is not currently 
> >>>>>>supported");
> >>>>>>+    }
> >>>>>>+}
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+void bdrv_disconnect(BlockDriverState *bs)
> >>>>>>+{
> >>>>>>+    BlockDriver *drv = bs->drv;
> >>>>>>+
> >>>>>>+    if (drv && drv->bdrv_disconnect) {
> >>>>>>+        drv->bdrv_disconnect(bs);
> >>>>>>+    } else if (bs->file) {
> >>>>>>+        bdrv_disconnect(bs->file);
> >>>>>>+    }
> >>>>>>+}
> >>>>>
> >>>>>Please add doc comments describing the semantics of these commands.
> >>>>
> >>>>Where should it be documented? In the header file?
> >>>
> >>>block.h doesn't document prototypes in the header file, please document
> >>>the function definition in block.c.  (QEMU is not consistent here, some
> >>>places do it the other way around.)
> >>>
> >>>>>Why are these operations needed when there is already a bs->drv == NULL
> >>>>>case which means the BDS is not ready for read/write?
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>The purpos is that: don't connect to nbd server when opening a nbd client.
> >>>>connect/disconnect
> >>>>to nbd server when we need to do it.
> >>>>
> >>>>IIUC, if bs->drv is NULL, it means that the driver is ejected? Here,
> >>>>connect/disconnect
> >>>>means that connect/disconnect to remote target(The target may be in 
> >>>>another
> >>>>host).
> >>>
> >>>Connect/disconnect puts something on the QEMU command-line that isn't
> >>>ready at startup time.
> >>>
> >>>How about using monitor commands to add objects when needed instead?
> >>>
> >>>That is cleaner because it doesn't introduce a new state (which is only
> >>>implemented for nbd).
> >>>
> >>
> >>The problem is that, nbd client is one child of quorum, and quorum must 
> >>have more
> >>than one child. The nbd server is not ready until colo is running.
> >
> >A monitor command to hot add/remove quorum children solves this problem
> >and could also be used in other scenarios (e.g. user decides to take a
> >quorum child offline).
> >
> 
> For replication case, we always do checkpoint again and again after
> migration. If the disk is not synced before migration, we will use disk 
> mirgation or mirror
> job to sync it.

Can you document the way that you use disk migration or mirror, together
with your COLO setup?   I think it would make it easier to understand this
restriction.
At the moment I don't understand how you can switch from doing a disk migration
into COLO mode - there seems to be a gap between the end of disk migration and 
the start
of COLO.

> So we cannot start block replication when migration is running. We need
> that nbd
> client is not ready when migration is running, and it is ready between
> migration ends
> and checkpoint begins. Using a monotir command add the nbd client will cause
> larger
> downtime. So if the nbd client has been added(only not connect to the nbd
> server),
> we can connect to nbd server automatically.

Without the disk migration or mirror, I can't see the need for the delayed 
bdrv_connect.
I can see that you want to do a disconnect at failover, however you need
to take care because if the network is broken at the point of failover
you need to make sure nothing blocks.

Dave

> 
> Thanks
> Wen Congyang
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Dr. David Alan Gilbert / address@hidden / Manchester, UK



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