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Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] spapr: Add NVDIMM device support


From: Igor Mammedov
Subject: Re: [PATCH v3 2/3] spapr: Add NVDIMM device support
Date: Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:05:09 +0100

On Wed, 11 Dec 2019 09:44:11 +0530
Shivaprasad G Bhat <address@hidden> wrote:

> On 12/06/2019 07:22 AM, David Gibson wrote:
> > On Wed, Nov 27, 2019 at 09:50:54AM +0530, Bharata B Rao wrote:  
> >> On Fri, Nov 22, 2019 at 10:42 AM David Gibson
> >> <address@hidden> wrote:  
> >>> Ok.  A number of queries about this.
> >>>
> >>> 1) The PAPR spec for ibm,dynamic-memory-v2 says that the first word in
> >>> each entry is the number of LMBs, but for NVDIMMs you use the
> >>> not-necessarily-equal scm_block_size instead.  Does the NVDIMM
> >>> amendment for PAPR really specify to use different block sizes for
> >>> these cases?  (In which case that's a really stupid spec decision, but
> >>> that wouldn't surprise me at this point).  
> >> SCM block sizes can be different from LMB sizes, but here we enforce
> >> that SCM device size (excluding metadata) to multiple of LMB size so
> >> that we don't end up memory range that is not aligned to LMB size.  
> > Right, but it still doesn't make sense to use scm_block_size when you
> > create the dynamic-memory-v2 property.  
> 
> Right, I should use LMB size here as I will be creating holes here to 
> disallow DIMMs
> to claim those LMBs marking them INVALID as Bharata Suggested before.
> 
> >   As far as the thing
> > interpreting that goes, it *must* be LMB size, not SCM block size.  If
> > those are required to be the same at this point, you should use an
> > assert().  
> 
> SCM block size should be a multiple for LMB size, need not be equal. 
> I'll add an assert
> for that, checking if equal. There is no benefit I see as of now having 
> higher
> SCM block size as the bind/unbind are already done before the bind hcall.
> 
> >>> 2) Similarly, the ibm,dynamic-memory-v2 description says that the
> >>> memory block described by the entry has a whole batch of contiguous
> >>> DRCs starting at the DRC index given and continuing for #LMBs DRCs.
> >>> For NVDIMMs it appears that you just have one DRC for the whole
> >>> NVDIMM.  Is that right?  
> >> One NVDIMM has one DRC, In our case, we need to mark the LMBs
> >> corresponding to that address range in ibm,dynamic-memory-v2 as
> >> reserved and invalid.  
> > Ok, that fits very weirdly with the DRC allocation for the rest of
> > pluggable memory, but I suppose that's PAPR for you.
> >
> > Having these in together is very inscrutable though, and relies on a
> > heap of non-obvious constraints about placement of DIMMs and NVDIMMs
> > relative to each other.  I really wonder if it would be better to have
> > a completely different address range for the NVDIMMs.  
> 
> The backend object for both DIMM and NVDIMM are memory-backend-*
> and they use the address from the same space. Separating it would mean
> using/introducing different backend object. I dont think we have a 
> choice here.

What address-space(s) are are talking about here exactly?
>From my point of view memory-backend-* provides RAM block at
some HVA, which shouldn't not have anything to do with how NVDIMM
partitions and maps it to GPA.


> >>> 3) You're not setting *any* extra flags on the entry.  How is the
> >>> guest supposed to know which are NVDIMM entries and which are regular
> >>> DIMM entries?  AFAICT in this version the NVDIMM slots are
> >>> indistinguishable from the unassigned hotplug memory (which makes the
> >>> difference in LMB and DRC numbering even more troubling).  
> >> For NVDIMM case, this patch should populate the LMB set in
> >> ibm,dynamic-memory-v2 something like below:
> >>              elem = spapr_get_drconf_cell(size /lmb_size, addr,
> >>                                           0, -1,
> >> SPAPR_LMB_FLAGS_RESERVED | SPAPR_LMB_FLAGS_DRC_INVALID);
> >>
> >> This will ensure that the NVDIMM range will never be considered as
> >> valid memory range for memory hotplug.  
> > Hrm.  Ok so we already have code that does that for any gaps between
> > DIMMs.  I don't think there's actually anything that that code will do
> > differently than the code you have for NVDIMMs, so you could just skip
> > over the NVDIMMs here and it should do the right thing.
> >
> > The *interpretation* of those entries will become different: for space
> > into which a regular DIMM is later inserted, we'll assume the DRC
> > index given is a base and there are more DRCs following it, but for
> > NVDIMMs we'll assume the same DRC throughout.  This is nuts, but IIUC
> > that's what PAPR says and we can't do much about it.  
> 
> My current patch is buggy as Bharata pointed out. The NVDIMM DRCs
> are not to be populated here, but mark the LMB DRCs as RESERVED and INVALID
> so that no malicious attempts to online those LMBs at those NVDIMM address
> ranges are attempted.
> 
> >  
> >>> 4) AFAICT these are _present_ NVDIMMs, so why is
> >>> SPAPR_LMB_FLAGS_ASSIGNED not set for them?  (and why is the node
> >>> forced to -1, regardless of di->node).
> >>>  
> >>>>           QSIMPLEQ_INSERT_TAIL(&drconf_queue, elem, entry);
> >>>>           nr_entries++;
> >>>>           cur_addr = addr + size;
> >>>> @@ -1261,6 +1273,85 @@ static void spapr_dt_hypervisor(SpaprMachineState 
> >>>> *spapr, void *fdt)
> >>>>       }
> >>>>   }
> >>>>
> >>>> +static void spapr_create_nvdimm_dr_connectors(SpaprMachineState *spapr)
> >>>> +{
> >>>> +    MachineState *machine = MACHINE(spapr);
> >>>> +    int i;
> >>>> +
> >>>> +    for (i = 0; i < machine->ram_slots; i++) {
> >>>> +        spapr_dr_connector_new(OBJECT(spapr), TYPE_SPAPR_DRC_PMEM, i);  
> >>> What happens if you try to plug an NVDIMM to one of these slots, but a
> >>> regular DIMM has already taken it?  
> >> NVDIMM hotplug won't get that occupied slot.  
> > Ok.
> >  
> 




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