Re: [Tlf-devel] S&P/RUN mode confusion

[Thomas Beierlein]

Hi Ervin and Ed,

just my 2 ct's.

Am Sun, 22 Dec 2013 20:25:53 +0100
schrieb Ervin Hegedüs - HA2OS <address@hidden>:

> Hello Ed,
> 
> thanks for the answer,
> 
> On Sun, Dec 22, 2013 at 01:33:28PM -0500, Ed wrote:
> > On 12/22/2013 01:10 PM, Ervin Hegedüs - HA2OS wrote:
> > >Hello,
> > 
> > >S&P_TU_MSG=
> > 
> > Your missing the message that goes in the above. Move what you have
> > in the ALT_3 and it should now work.
> > 
> > >
> > >ALT_3=CFM ++5NN-- #
> > 
> > >But when I hear a station, and type callsign, on ALT+3 Tlf send
> > >the ALT_3 message ("CFM 5NN SERIAL"), but when I press the enter
> > >to save the QSO, Tlf send my callsign again - and I don't know
> > >why.
> > 
> > As Above.
> 
> so, that's clear, very clear - but... :)
> 
> May be I just complicate this S&P mode, but I think it would be
> better to send a message to RUN station when I press ENTER (which
> configured for ALT+3 now), and when all thing is right, and
> station acknowledged my report, then I can save the QSO _without_
> any message. But as I wrote above, may be that's just my
> misunderstanding.

What is wrong with the  sequence below?

run station             you
------------------------------------
test de xy2xyz
                        xy2xyz <enter> (sends your call)
(if he did not here you
                        just press <enter>  again)
        
ha2os 5nn 123
                        type in <123> and press <enter>
                        (sends SP_TU_MSG and logs qso)

if he does not understand 
and send <agn?> 
                        press '_' (sends 'nr #' again)


So minimum is: Enter call <enter> enter nr send by him <enter> 


As far as I know it is handled similar by other contest programs.


> 
> Anyhow, I check this config as you wrote, and it works as you
> wrote :), I'll try to adapt this way :).
> 
> 
> Just an idea: may be it could be good to implement a short key to
> save the QSO without send any TU message - what is your opinion?
> 
Please read Ed's message again: '\' does what you are looking for.
> 
> > >What I'm missing, and what is the correct way to use the two
> > >modes of Tlf?
> > 
> > Use  + to switch between RUN & S&P. In S&P remember the 2nd Enter
> > sends th TU message. Use F2 to repeat your call till the RUN station
> > calls you.

Or simply press <enter>


73, de Tom DL1JBE.
> 
> yes, that's what I missed out,
>  
> > >On the previous contest, I only used RUN mode, but CQ_TU_MSG and
> > >S&P_TU_MSG were set up as empty string, and when I type an ENTER
> > >after I typed callsign, Tlf just save the QSO "silent".
> > 
> > That's because the 2 strings were empty. All of this I would imagine
> > has been hard coded by Rein. But it works and works well. But you
> > cannot change the Enter sequence in either RUN or S&P.
> > 
> > I would have copied the template rules file and change only what is
> > needed. I normally do not change the macros or the TU messages.
> 
> thanks for all, Ed, my New Year's resolution is "I will never use
> Tlf without TU messages" :)
> 
> 
> 73,
> 
> 
> Ervin
> 
> 
> HA2OS
>  
> 



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