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Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415)
From: |
Darshit Shah |
Subject: |
Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415) |
Date: |
Wed, 20 Feb 2019 10:04:07 +0000 |
I'm cleaning up the commits and pushing them soon. About XDG Base Directory
Support, there's only a couple of projects that are actively rejecting it and
they seem to have very good reasons.
## XDG Base Directory
For years, application developers in the Unix world have littered the home
directory of users with configuration and data files. Just look the size of the
output when you run `ls -la $HOME`, especially so, if you're using of of the
larger Desktop Environments. This is tolerated because these files are usually
'dotfiles' or hidden files. We don't see them during normal actions and tend to
forget about them. But having them tucked away, and organized in a single
location would be better. This is the origin of the [XDG Base Directory
Specification](https://specifications.freedesktop.org/basedir-spec/basedir-spec-latest.html).
It specifies where an application SHOULD place its files. The advantage to
this, apart from it being cleaner is also that there is a fixed location a user
needs to look at when searching for configuration / data files.
* [Debian Page](https://wiki.debian.org/XDGBaseDirectorySpecification)
* [Arch Page](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XDG_Base_Directory)
* https://ploum.net/207-modify-your-application-to-use-xdg-folders/
* [GNOME](https://wiki.gnome.org/Initiatives/GnomeGoals/XDGConfigFolders)
Many people, (me included), keep their configuration files under version
control. This helps us a lot as well. See:
* https://github.com/ayekat/dotfiles
* https://github.com/Earnestly/dotfiles
* https://github.com/roosemberth/dotfiles
* https://github.com/davidosomething/dotfiles
* https://gitlab.com/darnir/dotfiles_manager
## Application Support
Many applications are adopting support for the XDG Base Directory
Specification. The [Arch Wiki
page](https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/XDG_Base_Directory) has an entire
list of applications categorized by how well they support the spec.
Many popular applications such as, Git, i3wm, mutt, neovim, etc. natively have
support for the specification.
On the other hand, there's software like Wget, coreutils, gdb, etc. which
partially support the XDG Base Dir spec by allowing the user to override the
location of the configuration file.
And then there's a few like Bash, OpenSSH, vim, etc. which have hardcoded
defaults and do not support changing the locations at all.
For most applications, there is an open issue with the developers considering
the move. Only a few have outright refused to adopt it:
* [Bash](https://savannah.gnu.org/support/?108134): Gave no reason
* [Tmux](https://github.com/tmux/tmux/issues/142): Maintenance overhead
* [OpenSSH](https://bugzilla.mindrot.org/show_bug.cgi?id=2050): Too entrenched,
too many external tools rely on the file
I personally see no reason to _not_ move to using the XDG Basedir Spec.
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- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), (continued)
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Tim Rühsen, 2019/02/17
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Tim Rühsen, 2019/02/17
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Darshit Shah, 2019/02/17
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Darshit Shah, 2019/02/17
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Tim Rühsen, 2019/02/18
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Tim Rühsen, 2019/02/18
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), Tim Rühsen, 2019/02/18
- Re: [Wget-dev] wget2 | Follow XDG Base Directory Specification (!415), GNU Wget, 2019/02/20
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