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Re: Aleatoric Elements with barlines


From: Reggie
Subject: Re: Aleatoric Elements with barlines
Date: Mon, 7 Jan 2019 09:29:58 -0700 (MST)

Aaron Hill wrote
> On 2019-01-07 7:55 am, Reggie wrote:
>> Hi Aaron thank you for that help. I don't like to use indepedant meters
>> however since this section I believe should be cadenza for easy input.
>> However, I add spacer rests like you said but it makes everything way 
>> wrong
>> too many repeats and breaks everything. I don't see what you mean to 
>> add.
>> Can you give one example of a pairing of spacer and r1* to move one 
>> repeat
>> barline successfully? Many thanks. My error image.  error.png
> 
> The article I linked covers more than just meter, specifically it covers 
> how to have independent bar lines.  You need to follow it to ensure that 
> your bar lines do not "bleed" into the other staves.
> 
> See the following:
> 
> %%%%
> \version "2.19.82"
> 
> \paper { ragged-right = ##f }
> \layout {
>    \context { \Score
>      \remove "Timing_translator"
>      \remove "Default_bar_line_engraver"
>    }
>    \context { \Staff
>      \consists "Timing_translator"
>      \consists "Default_bar_line_engraver"
>    }
> }
> 
> << \new Staff \relative c'' {
>    \cadenzaOn
>    r1*5/4\fermata \bar ".|:"
>    < d e f >1\> r1\!\fermata \bar ":|."
>    s1*3/4 \bar "||"
> }
> \new Staff \relative c'' {
>    \cadenzaOn
>    r1\fermata \bar ".|:"
>    < d e f >1\> r1\!\fermata \bar ":|."
>    s1 \bar "||"
> }
> \new Staff \relative c'' {
>    \cadenzaOn
>    r1*3/4\fermata \bar ".|:"
>    < d e f >1\> r1\!\fermata \bar ":|."
>    s1*5/4 \bar "||"
> } >>
> %%%%
> 
> Regarding the spacer rests (or actual rests if you wanted them to be 
> printed), the beginning and ending rests must add up to the same total 
> across all staves.  So, for the above example, we need the rests to be 
> equivalent to two full measures.  In the first staff, scaling the 
> leading rest by 5/4 requires a corresponding scaling of the final 
> spacing rest to 3/4.  The middle staff is trivial, and the final staff 
> is just the opposite of the first.
> 
> -- Aaron Hill
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> aleatoric.cropped.png (43K)
> &lt;http://lilypond.1069038.n5.nabble.com/attachment/218568/0/aleatoric.cropped.png&gt;

Aaron you are a great teacher thank you. Just a couple few more questions
please. First how did you know that it had to equal 2 full measures? I did
not see how you arrived. Second please tell me is there any negative effect
of moving the barline from score to staff I didn't want to do that on a
global scale because this alignment is just one small section of a "normal"
composition, but if it's safe? Then ok. Any caveats with moving to staff?
Thank you. I don't understand the math of 2 full bars.



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