Re: lynx-dev hidden links

[Eduardo Chappa L.]

*** Henry Nelson (address@hidden) wrote in the Lynx list on...:

:) > that one site is not enough, one site is one example. I gave an example of
:) 
:) It's not one or a hundred examples; it's that 1) having "hidden" links
:) on a web page is of no value to anyone, and 2) about the only reason for
:) having links "hidden" is for just that reason: they're intended to be
:) hidden.

All these pages (below) have hidden links, why? because they desing their
pages not with lynx users in mind (all of these pages are completely
accessible in graphical browsers). Now if you are going to blame the
person who wrote the html of that page for it and say that lynx should not
do anything about it, sure that's a position and I respect it, but I would
respect more an effort to bring this issue to the attention of the user
who does not even know about this issue (writing it somewhere in the
manual/help/etc is not enough, a symbol/mark etc for it is better)

http://cnnenespanol.com/
http://www.elmercurio.cl/
http://www.tercera.cl/diario/2000/06/19/index.html
http://www.ual.com/
http://www.amarillas.cl/

:) ?  One of the best things about lynx is that it doesn't go about trying to
:) _create_ standards, like some of the other-brand browsers that are around.

You don't have to create a standard in order to help a user of lynx
navigate the web in a more friendlier way.

:) Lynx users are not punished by "poorly written html."  It is the site itself
:) which is rightly punished.  If lynx goes about merrily tuning in on these
:) sites, they go by unpunished and bad html is propagated.

Ok, I take your point, but it is uninformed users who are not being given
an information, which if they were using another browser they would see. I
do not understand how can not be this in disadvantage of the user.

:) >   Just to mention an example of this kind of behavior, take a look at
:) > pine4.21, it has a feature today that warns you about headers in a message
:) > that are related to list management (how to request help, subscribe,
:) 
:) I don't see how this is an example of what you are asking lynx to do.

I mean an analogy, other programs help users to see information which may
turn to be useful for them, that's what I think lynx should do

:) >   What I am suggesting is that lynx gives somehow an information which
:) > turns out to be useful, any reason why not?
:) 
:) Lynx _does_ give as much information that it can, just not in an immediately
:) obvious place (and IMO rightly so).

Can you admit that there could still be improvements? I mean Lynx is not
perfect, is it?


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Eduardo
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