Re: [Bug-gnuzilla] [gnu.org #829168] GNUzilla and IceCat for Windows?

[Jason Self]

On 05/10/2013 05:44 PM, Jason Self wrote:
> > One aspect of being a free program is being able to distribute
verbatim
> > copies (as you received it) commercially, under freedom 2. I
cannot go to
> > http://www.mozilla.org/ and download Firefox (or Thunderbird for
that matter)
> > and do that.

Ivan Zaigralin <address@hidden> wrote ..
> On the contrary: https://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/faq.html
> 
> > If you are redistributing unchanged official stable binaries
downloaded from
> > mozilla.org, to anyone in any way and for any purpose, no further
> > permissions are required from us.

That's not the entire thing. Indeed no "further permission" is needed
because they've already provided it in their trademark policy [0]. The
terms of said policy are what cause this problem:

"If you want to distribute the unchanged official binaries using the
Mozilla Marks, you may do so, without receiving any further permission
from Mozilla, as long as you comply with this Trademark Policy *and
you distribute them without charge.*"

(The added emphasis is mine.) So, my original statement still stands:

> One aspect of being a free program is being able to distribute verbatim
> copies (as you received it) commercially, under freedom 2. I cannot
go to
> http://www.mozilla.org/ and download Firefox (or Thunderbird for
that matter)
> and do that.

At least, not without running afoul of their trademark policy and opening 
myself up to potential problems.
Hence, freedom #2 is limited to non-commercial distribution only, 
which runs afoul of the FSF's free software definition [1].

[0] http://www.mozilla.org/foundation/trademarks/policy.html
[1] http://www.gnu.org/philosophy/free-sw.html