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Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting
From: |
Karl Berry |
Subject: |
Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting |
Date: |
Thu, 22 Dec 2011 17:08:49 -0800 |
I agree with Paul, using `...' in the source files should be clearer.
How about this? (I made a few other small English changes.) It's a
little clunky yet.
karl
--- standards.texi 23 Dec 2011 00:30:29 -0000 1.210
+++ standards.texi 23 Dec 2011 01:06:15 -0000
@@ -3187,8 +3187,28 @@ be the best choice.
@cindex left quote
address@hidden right quote
address@hidden opening quote
address@hidden single quote
address@hidden double quote
@cindex grave accent
-In the C locale, GNU programs should stick to plain ASCII for quotation
-characters in messages to users: preferably 0x60 (@samp{`}) for left
-quotes and 0x27 (@samp{'}) for right quotes. It is ok, but not
-required, to use locale-specific quotes in other locales.
+In the C locale, the output of GNU programs should stick to plain
+ASCII for quotation characters in messages to users: preferably 0x22
+(@samp{"}) or 0x27 (@samp{'}) for both opening and closing quotes.
+
+It is ok, but not required, to output locale-specific quotes in other
+locales. However, you should never use Unicode in the C locale.
+
+That's for the output. In source files, you should stick to ASCII and
+use the ASCII character 0x60 (@samp{`}) for opening quotes. That way,
+translators can distinguish opening and closing quotes. If you
+support internationalization, translators should be able to provide
+their own quote characters. By convention, the string @samp{"`"} will
+be translated to the opening quote and the string @samp{"'"} will be
+translated to the closing quote.
+
+If the output of your program is ever likely to be parsed by another
+program, it is good to provide an option that makes this parsing
+reliable. For example, you could escape special characters using
+conventions from the C language or the Bourne shell. See for example
+the option @option{--quoting-style} of GNU @code{ls}.
@@ -3200,18 +3220,2 @@ character. See the Gnulib documentation
-In any case, the documentation for your program should clearly specify
-how it does quoting, if different than the preferred method of @samp{`}
-and @samp{'}. This is especially important if the output of your
-program is ever likely to be parsed by another program.
-
-Quotation characters are a difficult area in the computing world at
-this time: there are no true left or right quote characters in Latin1;
-the @samp{`} character we use was standardized there as a grave
-accent. Moreover, Latin1 is still not universally usable.
-
-Unicode contains the unambiguous quote characters required. However,
-Unicode and UTF-8 are not universally well-supported, either.
-
-This may change over the next few years, and then we will revisit
-this.
-
- [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paolo Bonzini, 2011/12/20
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/20
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paolo Bonzini, 2011/12/20
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Karl Berry, 2011/12/20
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paolo Bonzini, 2011/12/21
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/22
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting,
Karl Berry <=
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Smith, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paolo Bonzini, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paolo Bonzini, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Karl Berry, 2011/12/23
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/24
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paul Eggert, 2011/12/26
- Re: [PATCH] standards: rewrite section on quoting, Paolo Bonzini, 2011/12/27