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Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure


From: Seth Johnson
Subject: Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 02:27:14 -0400

Replied off-list.  FWIW, no, I don't take the criticism in a bad way.

Seth

James Michael DuPont wrote:
> 
> Seth,
> 
> I hope that you dont take my criticism wrongly. I am still interested
> in this universal data structure, and hope that you dont get
> discouraged. If you want to have me review anything, please tell me.
> 
> mike
> 
> --- Seth Johnson <address@hidden> wrote:
> >
> > James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > >
> > > Well put norbert.
> > >
> > > Seth, I am also a bit wary about the "universal nature" of this CTP
> > > myself.
> >
> >
> > To "universal application server" and "universal data structure,"
> > add:
> > "universal state transfer."
> >
> > Sheesh, I was just going to shut up and lurk.  After this note, I
> > will.
> >
> > Proving it's universal is not the problem.  When you see it and have
> > it
> > explained you see what it's about and how intuitive it is.  There's a
> > very
> > simple, analytical way to explain it that would make the case very
> > simply,
> > but that would reveal too much.
> >
> > I told Norbert that I would reply to his comments awhile back, but I
> > dropped
> > that, because I have profound respect for GNU and DotGNU -- more than
> > many
> > people here know -- and because I don't want an object case to be
> > made out
> > of my proposition (i.e., an opportunity to demonstrate how GNU
> > handles
> > software patents, how GNU handles apparently pipedream stuff, and so
> > on).
> >
> > Truly, the important thing in this forum is to complete the delivery
> > of
> > DotGNU.
> >
> > I've explained as much as I could, but I've already explained that
> > this is
> > something that should only be revealed when certain apps are done
> > with it
> > and ready; then it needs to be spread far and wide, as fast as it can
> > be,
> > before a counterstrike occurs.  Once CTP is delivered, most if not
> > all of
> > GNU's purposes can really be realized, by the process of simple
> > demonstration that a *universal application server* and a *universal
> > data
> > structure* makes possible.
> >
> > I guess I might note here that even though I've shown it to some
> > people, I
> > am not coding it in C or anything in the free family -- I'm a
> > freaking dBASE
> > dinosaur!  The result is that, it would *still* require secrecy even
> > when
> > people look at it in a serious way, just to convert the code to
> > something
> > that doesn't depend on an unfree VM, as dBASE (dBL) code does.
> >
> > Now I shall LURK again!  LOL
> >
> > Seth Johnson
> >
> >
> > >
> > > --- Norbert Bollow <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > Postulating theorems is relatively easy; the hard part is to show
> > > > that the claims are true.  Also note that with every instance of
> > > > "universal" that you introduce into your claims, you make that
> > > > difficult task *much* harder.  If you can introduce one instance
> > of
> > > > "universal" into your claim and still prove it while at the same
> > time
> > > > having a practically useful system, I will consider your
> > > > accomplishment worthy of a Nobel prize.  However your claim
> > contains
> > > > even two instances of "universal" ("universal application server"
> > and
> > > > "universal data structure"), that makes it totally outrageous in
> > my
> > > > eyes.  I think it's much more likely that it will turn out that
> > there
> > > > is a pretty general (but not universal) data structure and a way
> > to
> > > > do
> > > > something worthwhile (but pretty specialized) with it.
> > >
> > > mike
> > >
> > > =====
> > > James Michael DuPont
> > > http://introspector.sourceforge.net/
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