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Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure


From: James Michael DuPont
Subject: Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure
Date: Wed, 23 Apr 2003 05:13:34 -0700 (PDT)

Seth,

I hope that you dont take my criticism wrongly. I am still interested
in this universal data structure, and hope that you dont get
discouraged. If you want to have me review anything, please tell me.

mike

--- Seth Johnson <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > 
> > Well put norbert.
> > 
> > Seth, I am also a bit wary about the "universal nature" of this CTP
> > myself.
> 
> 
> To "universal application server" and "universal data structure,"
> add:
> "universal state transfer."
> 
> Sheesh, I was just going to shut up and lurk.  After this note, I
> will.
> 
> Proving it's universal is not the problem.  When you see it and have
> it
> explained you see what it's about and how intuitive it is.  There's a
> very
> simple, analytical way to explain it that would make the case very
> simply,
> but that would reveal too much.
> 
> I told Norbert that I would reply to his comments awhile back, but I
> dropped
> that, because I have profound respect for GNU and DotGNU -- more than
> many
> people here know -- and because I don't want an object case to be
> made out
> of my proposition (i.e., an opportunity to demonstrate how GNU
> handles
> software patents, how GNU handles apparently pipedream stuff, and so
> on).
> 
> Truly, the important thing in this forum is to complete the delivery
> of
> DotGNU.
> 
> I've explained as much as I could, but I've already explained that
> this is
> something that should only be revealed when certain apps are done
> with it
> and ready; then it needs to be spread far and wide, as fast as it can
> be,
> before a counterstrike occurs.  Once CTP is delivered, most if not
> all of
> GNU's purposes can really be realized, by the process of simple
> demonstration that a *universal application server* and a *universal
> data
> structure* makes possible.
> 
> I guess I might note here that even though I've shown it to some
> people, I
> am not coding it in C or anything in the free family -- I'm a
> freaking dBASE
> dinosaur!  The result is that, it would *still* require secrecy even
> when
> people look at it in a serious way, just to convert the code to
> something
> that doesn't depend on an unfree VM, as dBASE (dBL) code does.
> 
> Now I shall LURK again!  LOL
> 
> Seth Johnson
> 
> 
> > 
> > --- Norbert Bollow <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > Postulating theorems is relatively easy; the hard part is to show
> > > that the claims are true.  Also note that with every instance of
> > > "universal" that you introduce into your claims, you make that
> > > difficult task *much* harder.  If you can introduce one instance
> of
> > > "universal" into your claim and still prove it while at the same
> time
> > > having a practically useful system, I will consider your
> > > accomplishment worthy of a Nobel prize.  However your claim
> contains
> > > even two instances of "universal" ("universal application server"
> and
> > > "universal data structure"), that makes it totally outrageous in
> my
> > > eyes.  I think it's much more likely that it will turn out that
> there
> > > is a pretty general (but not universal) data structure and a way
> to
> > > do
> > > something worthwhile (but pretty specialized) with it.
> > 
> > mike
> > 
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