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Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure


From: James Michael DuPont
Subject: Re: [DotGNU]Implement RDF in a Universal Data Structure
Date: Thu, 24 Apr 2003 00:44:12 -0700 (PDT)

FYI :
ftp://ftp.cse.ucsc.edu/pub/tr/ucsc-crl-94-15.ps.Z
UDS: A Universal Data Structure 

This paper gives a data structure (UDS) for supporting database
retrieval, inference and machine learning that attempts to unify and
extend previous work in relational databases, semantic networks,
conceptual graphs, RETE, neural networks and case-based reasoning.
Foundational to this view is that all data can be viewed as a primitive
set of objects and mathematical relations (as sets of tuples) over
those objects. The data is stored in three partially-ordered
hierarchies: a node hierarchy, a relation hierarchy, and a conceptual
graphs hierarchy. All three hierarchies can be stored as "levels" in
the conceptual graphs hierarchy.


 These multiple hierarchies support multiple views of the data with
advantages over any of the individual methods. In particular,
conceptual graphs are stored in a relation-based compact form that
facilitates matching. UDS is currently being implemented in the Peirce
conceptual graphs workbench and is being used as a domain-independent
monitor for state-space search domains at a level that is faster than
previous implementations designed specifically for those domains.In
addition it provides a useful environment for pattern-based machine
learning.

mike
--- Seth Johnson <address@hidden> wrote:
> 
> Replied off-list.  FWIW, no, I don't take the criticism in a bad way.
> 
> Seth
> 
> James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > 
> > Seth,
> > 
> > I hope that you dont take my criticism wrongly. I am still
> interested
> > in this universal data structure, and hope that you dont get
> > discouraged. If you want to have me review anything, please tell
> me.
> > 
> > mike
> > 
> > --- Seth Johnson <address@hidden> wrote:
> > >
> > > James Michael DuPont wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Well put norbert.
> > > >
> > > > Seth, I am also a bit wary about the "universal nature" of this
> CTP
> > > > myself.
> > >
> > >
> > > To "universal application server" and "universal data structure,"
> > > add:
> > > "universal state transfer."
> > >
> > > Sheesh, I was just going to shut up and lurk.  After this note, I
> > > will.
> > >
> > > Proving it's universal is not the problem.  When you see it and
> have
> > > it
> > > explained you see what it's about and how intuitive it is. 
> There's a
> > > very
> > > simple, analytical way to explain it that would make the case
> very
> > > simply,
> > > but that would reveal too much.
> > >
> > > I told Norbert that I would reply to his comments awhile back,
> but I
> > > dropped
> > > that, because I have profound respect for GNU and DotGNU -- more
> than
> > > many
> > > people here know -- and because I don't want an object case to be
> > > made out
> > > of my proposition (i.e., an opportunity to demonstrate how GNU
> > > handles
> > > software patents, how GNU handles apparently pipedream stuff, and
> so
> > > on).
> > >
> > > Truly, the important thing in this forum is to complete the
> delivery
> > > of
> > > DotGNU.
> > >
> > > I've explained as much as I could, but I've already explained
> that
> > > this is
> > > something that should only be revealed when certain apps are done
> > > with it
> > > and ready; then it needs to be spread far and wide, as fast as it
> can
> > > be,
> > > before a counterstrike occurs.  Once CTP is delivered, most if
> not
> > > all of
> > > GNU's purposes can really be realized, by the process of simple
> > > demonstration that a *universal application server* and a
> *universal
> > > data
> > > structure* makes possible.
> > >
> > > I guess I might note here that even though I've shown it to some
> > > people, I
> > > am not coding it in C or anything in the free family -- I'm a
> > > freaking dBASE
> > > dinosaur!  The result is that, it would *still* require secrecy
> even
> > > when
> > > people look at it in a serious way, just to convert the code to
> > > something
> > > that doesn't depend on an unfree VM, as dBASE (dBL) code does.
> > >
> > > Now I shall LURK again!  LOL
> > >
> > > Seth Johnson
> > >
> > >
> > > >
> > > > --- Norbert Bollow <address@hidden> wrote:
> > > > > Postulating theorems is relatively easy; the hard part is to
> show
> > > > > that the claims are true.  Also note that with every instance
> of
> > > > > "universal" that you introduce into your claims, you make
> that
> > > > > difficult task *much* harder.  If you can introduce one
> instance
> > > of
> > > > > "universal" into your claim and still prove it while at the
> same
> > > time
> > > > > having a practically useful system, I will consider your
> > > > > accomplishment worthy of a Nobel prize.  However your claim
> > > contains
> > > > > even two instances of "universal" ("universal application
> server"
> > > and
> > > > > "universal data structure"), that makes it totally outrageous
> in
> > > my
> > > > > eyes.  I think it's much more likely that it will turn out
> that
> > > there
> > > > > is a pretty general (but not universal) data structure and a
> way
> > > to
> > > > > do
> > > > > something worthwhile (but pretty specialized) with it.
> > > >
> > > > mike
> > > >
> > > > =====
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> > > > http://introspector.sourceforge.net/
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> hold for
> usual practice in ordinary social discourse to which one holds no
> claim of
> exclusive rights.
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