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Re: Changes for emacs 28
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Ihor Radchenko |
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Re: Changes for emacs 28 |
Date: |
Wed, 09 Sep 2020 13:38:05 +0800 |
> > 1. The welcome screen has too much information and new user simply
> > ignores it
>
> What Emacs version were you using?
I am on master.
Strictly speaking, it is not too much information (just single page),
but rather that the information does not look important. The guided tour
is grouped together with warranty and redistribution - things people
largely ignore.
I believe that it is better to put more emphasis on the guided tour (and
change the tour as I suggested in my email and later replying to the
request about tramp defaults with even more details).
Probably something like the following:
Welcome to GNU Emacs, one component of the GNU/Linux operating system.
First time using Emacs? Check out how it is different from other
editors:
<larger font> Emacs Guided Tour </larger font>
(if you don't, you may be confused)
Emacs Tutorial Learn basic keystroke commands
Emacs Guided Tour Overview of Emacs features at gnu.org
<...>
> > 3. File opening dialogue is completely throwing the new user off -
>
> Can you say concretely what you mean by "file opening dialogue"? We
> don't use the term "dialogue", and I can't see how it fits anything in
> Emacs.
That point can be disregarded. Emacs uses graphical dialog (see
`use-file-dialog') when user tries to open file from menu or toolbar,
but I did not know it because helm overrides that behaviour. I filed bug
report in helm. The problem should be fixed now.
Best,
Ihor
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> > 1. The welcome screen has too much information and new user simply
> > ignores it
>
> What Emacs version were you using?
>
> > 3. File opening dialogue is completely throwing the new user off -
>
> Can you say concretely what you mean by "file opening dialogue"? We
> don't use the term "dialogue", and I can't see how it fits anything in
> Emacs.
>
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- RE: Changes for emacs 28, (continued)
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Eric S Fraga, 2020/09/10
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Ihor Radchenko, 2020/09/10
- Tramp defaults (was: Changes for emacs 28), Michael Albinus, 2020/09/08
- Re: Tramp defaults (was: Changes for emacs 28), Ihor Radchenko, 2020/09/08
- Re: Tramp defaults, Michael Albinus, 2020/09/08
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/08
- Re: Changes for emacs 28,
Ihor Radchenko <=
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/09
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Lars Ingebrigtsen, 2020/09/08
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/08
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, João Távora, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Richard Stallman, 2020/09/07
- Re: Changes for emacs 28, Stefan Monnier, 2020/09/07
- joke (was: Changes for emacs 28), andres . ramirez, 2020/09/07
- Re: joke (was: Changes for emacs 28), tomas, 2020/09/08
- Re: joke, Ulrich Mueller, 2020/09/08
- Re: joke, tomas, 2020/09/08