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Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars


From: Dmitry Gutov
Subject: Re: Emacs Survey: Toolbars
Date: Tue, 15 Dec 2020 23:07:28 +0200
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On 15.12.2020 07:30, Lars Ingebrigtsen wrote:
Of 7.3K respondents, 5K disable toolbars, which is more than two
thirds.  So perhaps toolbars should default to off?  I know toolbars
were all the rage in the 90s, but that's apparently not the case now.

Opinions?

I also think the poll is heavily biased in favor of either Reddit users (who are largely either power-users, or those who inspire to be), or experienced Emacs users in general.

For vast majority of them, disabling the toolbar is a trivial task. The ones who it really serves are less experienced users, non-programmers, etc. I don't think we have any significant data on that segment.

Furthermore, features like this can have a very strong survivor bias: if the toolbars are bad, users will disable them. But a better answer would be to improve them instead.

Rather than one poll, it might be worth more to look at similar programs (VS Code and IntelliJ IDEA come to mind) which both have a toolbar by default, but make it easy enough to disable the "distracting" elements of the UI for those who prefer them off.



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