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Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the G
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Jim Busser |
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Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message |
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Fri, 13 Aug 2010 15:58:11 -0700 |
On 2010-08-13, at 3:17 PM, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton wrote:
> noooOo - re-read what i wrote: i said "the administrator *deleted*
> the alias because it was totally totally wrong. i.e. even completely
> the wrong name, such that it was vital that the alias be deleted, but
> the report was confirmed as being to the correct patient, perhaps by
> phone calls verifying it, perhaps by the PID etc. etc."
and
> yeehhhs, but as i explicitly said above, the decision was made, for
> safety reasons, to delete that "stupid" name from the aliases, because
> it was... ooo, i dunno... matching by complete chance against a
> totally different patient.
Two patients can correctly have the same name. This then depends on date of
birth and / or another identified (health number) for differentiation. This is
already supported.
If you are suggesting:
Patient whom we knew as Peter Daniels
has blood taken
path lab returns
John Smith
who matches our "other'"John Smith
you maybe even propose an in-common date of birth
but Peter confirms
I did go to the lab
they did take 2 tubes of blood at that time
the lab did not record a health number because I paid privately
for reasons unexplained, the lab mis-entered me as "John Smith"
coincidentally I have the same date of birth as "real" John Smith in
the praxis
1) incompetence exists, but in Canada and maybe all countries which would run
GNUmed, it should be possible to get the wrong name fixed upstream.
2) if the lab refused to fix it, you could persuade your praxis administrator,
in GNUmed, to create alias
Smith, John STUPID LAB ALIAS
A case of identical DOB, AND stupidly (or even coincidentally) matching names
AND no disambiguating middle names AND with null PID {002, 003, 004} is
possible but in the IMO extremely unlikely case that it would arise I think it
should require the individual praxis to achieve a solution locally for that
patient and, in the meantime, manually tolerate it including the possibility of
redundant or updated test results requiring to be dealt with.
>> <snip>
>
> ah.. are you saying that you would, given that the proposed
> fk_lab_request would preserve the OBR-OBX hierarchy (in
> clin.test_result + clin.lab_request), that you would want to then
> begin changing the encounter with which the lab_request and/or
> test_result was associated? perhaps move the test_results to
> somewhere more appropriate?
yes
> if so, that kinda breaks what's been discussed already about keeping
> clin.lab_requests + clin.test_results associated with "automated lab
> import" encounter/episode types!
it only breaks what might have been the permanence of the association. I should
point out that, all along, GNUmed has figured on the encounter as serving an
able-to-be-altered grouping function so I apologize that this maybe led to
competing expectations.
While personally I might be happy with associating results with a clinical
encounter only in the case where results had been manually-inputted, and
instead using the "episode" as the grouping parameter, I see no need for a
"victor" in this argumentation if the encounter dependency can in fact be
removed. :-)
-- Jim
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, (continued)
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, lkcl, 2010/08/12
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Sebastian Hilbert, 2010/08/11
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Jim Busser, 2010/08/11
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton, 2010/08/11
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Jim Busser, 2010/08/12
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton, 2010/08/13
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Jim Busser, 2010/08/13
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton, 2010/08/13
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Jim Busser, 2010/08/13
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton, 2010/08/13
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message,
Jim Busser <=
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Elizabeth Dodd, 2010/08/14
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Jim Busser, 2010/08/14
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Karsten Hilbert, 2010/08/15
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Elizabeth Dodd, 2010/08/15
- [Gnumed-devel] Show a marker when there is another patient with "same or similar" name, Jim Busser, 2010/08/15
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton, 2010/08/14
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Karsten Hilbert, 2010/08/29
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Karsten Hilbert, 2010/08/15
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Luke Kenneth Casson Leighton, 2010/08/15
- Re: [Gnumed-devel] Matching was Re: Mirth (2 of 3): HL7 import for the GNUmed project - test source message, Karsten Hilbert, 2010/08/17