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Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project


From: Jean Louis
Subject: Re: Joint statement on the GNU Project
Date: Thu, 10 Oct 2019 06:15:44 +0200
User-agent: Mutt/1.10.1 (2018-07-13)

* zimoun <address@hidden> [2019-10-08 16:19]:
> Hi,
> 
> First, just to give numbers about what means 18 GNU maintainers. Here
> [1] is the list of the GNU packages. I let you count but I guess the
> list is more than 300 packages. Therefore, one can guess that the GNU
> maintainers are more than 300.
> Well, even if these 18 people are awesome, there are 18 compared to
> more than 300. Therefore, now this statement is just a call.
> 
> [1] https://www.gnu.org/manual/blurbs.html

GNU project can still fork the software and use any free software and
continue without problems.

> Second, we can complain about the wording of the statement, the
> publishing way, asking for concrete facts, etc. but this statement is
> not a surprise. Is it? Really?

To me it is a big X$%*&#X surprise because it is published with money
that RMS provided for them to publish it, on RMS's domain, to defame
and harass RMS.

I have nothing against free speech, I am against abusing GNU project
on the GNU project resources.

In fact, they shall step down and remove themselves from GNU and build
whatever project they wish to build.

That is a hostile take over attempt with authority, power and funds as
purpose.

> It would have perhaps been better received if the 18 signatories did
> as Thomas Bushnell [2]: speaking individually about their own
> experience [3] of long time contributor. But does it change their key
> point: "We believe that Richard Stallman cannot represent all of
> GNU."?

Exactly, I have absolutely nothing to say against publishing their
opinions on their own websites.

That is exactly what RMS is doing, he publishes his opinions on
https://www.stallman.org

Jean

I am asking those people who are pretending to represent all of the
GNU project and who are defaming and slandering RMS[1] to step down
and resign, do your software hacking somewhere else, you do not
deserve funding that RMS is giving you. Ludovic Courtès, Ricardo
Wurmus, Matt Lee, Andreas Enge, Samuel Thibault, Carlos O'Donell, Andy
Wingo, Jordi Gutiérrez Hermoso, Mark Wielaard, Ian Lance Taylor,
Werner Koch, Daiki Ueno, Christopher Lemmer Webber, Jan Nieuwenhuizen,
John Wiegley, Tom Tromey, Jeff Law, Han-Wen Nienhuys, Joshua Gay, Ian
Jackson, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, Andrej Shadura, Zack Weinberg, John
W. Eaton, RESIGN and step down from GNU projects, disassociate
yourself, find another house for your excessive and uncrontollable
fear of the free speech.

Facts:
https://geoff.greer.fm/2019/09/30/in-defense-of-richard-stallman/
https://sterling-archermedes.github.io/



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