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Re: Telemetry on by default kitty
From: |
Leo Famulari |
Subject: |
Re: Telemetry on by default kitty |
Date: |
Sun, 13 Jun 2021 15:04:12 -0400 |
On Sun, Jun 13, 2021 at 08:35:18PM +0200, Leo Prikler wrote:
> Perhaps it's valuable for developers, but as a user I often have next
> to no information about what data gets collected and for which purpose,
> both of which are important for *informed consent*. If "the masses"
> don't really care about the data being collected and would rather see
> improvements on their software, they are free to enable telemetry –
> that's what opt-in is for – but my personal opinion on this is that
> you're going to have a hard time convincing people, that you actually
> only collect reasonable amounts and use them with respect for privacy
> rights.
Yeah, I agree that telemetry is a problem in addition to being valuable
for developers.
I think that making it opt-in doesn't really help very much. People use
defaults. I read that Firefox struggles with software quality on
GNU/Linux because almost nobody enables the telemetry.
I feel that, ultimately, we already trust most software authors
implicitly and totally, because we are not auditing their programs. So,
I am personally happy to enable the telemetry for most software I use —
especially if it is free software and especially for software that deals
with the network. I don't personally see the point of treating telemetry
as a special case in terms of trust or consent.
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, (continued)
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Bone Baboon, 2021/06/12
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, 2021/06/12
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Prikler, 2021/06/12
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Prikler, 2021/06/12
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Mark H Weaver, 2021/06/12
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Tobias Geerinckx-Rice, 2021/06/13
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Bone Baboon, 2021/06/12
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Prikler, 2021/06/13
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Famulari, 2021/06/13
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Prikler, 2021/06/13
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty,
Leo Famulari <=
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Ryan Prior, 2021/06/13
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Prikler, 2021/06/14
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Ludovic Courtès, 2021/06/14
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Giovanni Biscuolo, 2021/06/15
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Prikler, 2021/06/15
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Leo Famulari, 2021/06/16
- my apoligies (was Re: Telemetry on by default kitty), Giovanni Biscuolo, 2021/06/16
- Re: my apoligies (was Re: Telemetry on by default kitty), Leo Prikler, 2021/06/16
- Re: my apoligies (was Re: Telemetry on by default kitty), Leo Famulari, 2021/06/16
- Re: Telemetry on by default kitty, Mark H Weaver, 2021/06/16