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[bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing.
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Simon Tournier |
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[bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing. |
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Wed, 25 Oct 2023 15:53:04 +0200 |
Hi
On Tue, 24 Oct 2023 at 17:54, Ludovic Courtès <ludo@gnu.org> wrote:
>> +@item
>> +@emph{Remain focused: do not change the scope of the work being
>> +reviewed.} For example, if the contribution touches code that follows a
>> +pattern deemed unwieldy, it would be unfair to ask the submitter to fix
>> +all occurrences of that pattern in the code; to put it simply, if a
>> +problem unrelated to the patch at hand was already there, do not ask the
>> +submitter to fix it.
For me this item is clear…
> Another item came to mind, that could be phrased like this:
…while this new is unclear…
> Spend time proportional to the stakes. Ensure the discussion focuses
> on important aspects of the changes; do not let it be derailed by
> objectively unimportant issues@footnote{This situation is often
> referred to as ``bikeshedding'', where much time is spent discussing
> each one's preference for the color of the shed at the expense
> progress made on the project to keep bikes dry.}. In particular,
> issues such as code formatting and other conventions can be dealt with
> through automation---e.g., @command{guix lint} and @command{guix
> style}---or through documentation (@pxref{Packaging Guidelines}, as an
> example).
…especially in the light of these other items:
+@item
+@emph{Review is a discussion.} The submitter's and reviewer's views on
+how to achieve a particular change may not always be aligned. As a
+reviewer, try hard to explain the rationale for suggestions you make,
+and to understand and take into account the submitter's motivation for
+doing things in a certain way.
+@item
+@emph{Aim for finalization.} Reviewing code is time-consuming. Your
+goal as a reviewer is to put the process on a clear path towards
+integration, possibly with agreed-upon changes, or rejection, with a
+clear and mutually-understood reasoning. Avoid leaving the review
+process in a lingering state with no clear way out.
Well, I do not like: « discussion focuses on important aspects of the
changes; do not let it be derailed by objectively unimportant issues »
because it is not clear for me what means “important aspects” or
“objectively unimportant issues”. How do I gauge?
Sometimes, what does not appear to me “important” at first has then, at
the end, an impact that cannot be neglected. This new item appears to
me as: it is not a open discussion and you should refrain from
commenting if you are not sure your point is *absolutely* important.
Instead of this new item – where my understanding is: avoid bikeshed :-)
and I agree – I propose to amend the item @emph{Review is a discussion.}
by explicitly refer to the 3 other items; which are, IMHO, the guards
against bikeshedding. Something along:
--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
@item
@emph{Review is a discussion.} The submitter's and reviewer's views on
how to achieve a particular change may not always be aligned. The
discussion is lead by remain focused, ensure progress and aim for
finalization; spend time proportional to the stakes@footnote{This
situation is often referred to as ``bikeshedding'', where much time is
spent discussing each one's preference for the color of the shed at the
expense progress made on the project to keep bikes dry.}. As a
reviewer, try hard to explain the rationale for suggestions you make,
and to understand and take into account the submitter's motivation for
doing things in a certain way.
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---
WDYT? Does it capture the idea?
If yes, I would pick this order for the enumeration:
1. Be clear and explicit about changes you are suggesting
2. Remain focused
3. Ensure progress
4. Aim for finalization
5. Review is a discussion
Cheers,
simon
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., (continued)
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., Clément Lassieur, 2023/10/20
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., Simon Tournier, 2023/10/24
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., Simon Tournier, 2023/10/24
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., Maxim Cournoyer, 2023/10/31
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., Simon Tournier, 2023/10/31
[bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing., Ludovic Courtès, 2023/10/24
- [bug#66436] [PATCH v2] doc: Add some guidelines for reviewing.,
Simon Tournier <=
[bug#66436] [PATCH 0/2] Add support for Git Large File Storage (LFS)., Maxim Cournoyer, 2023/10/11