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[Gzz-commits] manuscripts/storm article.rst
From: |
Hermanni Hyytiälä |
Subject: |
[Gzz-commits] manuscripts/storm article.rst |
Date: |
Tue, 28 Jan 2003 05:14:59 -0500 |
CVSROOT: /cvsroot/gzz
Module name: manuscripts
Changes by: Hermanni Hyytiälä <address@hidden> 03/01/28 05:14:58
Modified files:
storm : article.rst
Log message:
Fix conflict
CVSWeb URLs:
http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/gzz/manuscripts/storm/article.rst.diff?tr1=1.47&tr2=1.48&r1=text&r2=text
Patches:
Index: manuscripts/storm/article.rst
diff -u manuscripts/storm/article.rst:1.47 manuscripts/storm/article.rst:1.48
--- manuscripts/storm/article.rst:1.47 Tue Jan 28 04:19:05 2003
+++ manuscripts/storm/article.rst Tue Jan 28 05:14:58 2003
@@ -293,171 +293,8 @@
XXX
-<<<<<<< article.rst
-Idea/Plan
-=========
-
-[Notes for the authors, not part of the final document
-though text may be moved from here to there.]
-
-Whenever a document moves on the current web, links to it break,
-be it from an author's computer to a public server,
-from one server to another, from the server to a client,
-or from one personal computer to another. We subsume
-these forms of movement under the term 'data mobility.'
-
-
-Storm goals/benefits:
-
-- Reliability
- - Append-and-delete-only
- - The same data can be stored in many locations,
- allowing it to be easily reconstructed after failure
- - Versioning: Old versions remain accessible
-- Xanalogical storage
-- If a document is accessible, references to it work
-- Links do not break
-- Easy syncing:
- - Just copy a bunch of blocks
- - Documents can be synced & merged
- - Inter-document structures can be synced & merged
- - Syncing can be done without merging immediately,
- leaving two alternative versions current
- (so e.g. an automated process is entirely possible,
- even when there are conflicts)
-- Versioning
-
-
-Grouped differently,
-
-- Reliability (as above)
-- Usablility in the face of intermittent connectivity
- (includes syncing, finding a document if available...)
-- Xanalogical structure
- (includes versioning, non-breaking links etc.)
-
-Storm limitations/weaknesses:
-
-- what, actually?
-
-antont ponders: for files storm is ok, but how about:
-- irc? (latency?)
-- video? (throughput)
-
-and:
-.. multipoint live video? (both latency and throughput demands)
-
-* does it make sense to think of irc messages, and/or video frames, as
-datablocks .. or what?
-
-
-hemppah's comment on syncing term:
-I'd prefer term 'replication' instead of term syncing, when
-updating data to 'the most recent state'. E.g. Lotus Notes uses
-term replication, when one performs locally made updates into
-a centralized server --> 'used within same system'. Syncing term, however,
-is used when importing/exporting e.g. Nokia Communicator calendar data
into/from
-Lotus Notes calendar --> 'used between different systems'.
-
-
-hemppah: worth to mention is that Ray Ozzie is a man behind Lotus Notes and
Groove;
-Lotus Notes is based on client-server model and, Groove is based on p2p model
-->
-possible direction etc. ?
-
-hemppah: I think we should mention that in Gzz one refer to data in
non-hierarchial
-way, where as in Notes (and other systems also, references!!), we must use
-hierarchial way. In Notes most important IDs are:
-1) every document has a unique identifier, which is unique among all replicas
-of database
-2) every document/design element has a identifier, named as noteID, which is
unique
-in database, but not among all replicas of database
-3) every view has a unique identifier, which is unique among all replicas of
-database
-4) every database has a replica ID, which identifies database's replicas
-among all databases
-
-So, if we want to refer to a document, we use format:
-
-replicaID/viewID/documentID
-
-Also, we can refer to same document, through *many different* views
(analogical to Gzz's dimensions ?):
-notes://<server>/replicaID/viewID1/documentID
-notes://<server>/replicaID/viewID2/documentID
-
-Here's a real example:
-Notes://server/D235632D00313587/38D22BF5E8F088348525JK7500129B2C/REWB3FDE0D53807B67C2256CB50026FCVV
-
-For information about IDs in Notes:
-http://www-12.lotus.com/ldd/doc/tools/c/4.5/api45ug.nsf/85255d56004d2bfd85255b1800631684/00d000c1005800c985255e0e00726863?OpenDocument
-
-In Gzz, however, we don't know the location, we know only the *identity* of
data what we are looking for, as follows:
-
-urn-5:FAB3FDE0hgfD5kkjj3807B67C2256CfsdB50026FC51
-
-Above is not a *correct* urn-5, but very similar to last part of notes' syntax.
-
-<<<<<<< article.rst
-benja's reply:
-Hm. Replication to me means, the same data is kept on multiple
-machines. This is not what we are talking about here: We're talking
-about *different versions* of the same data being kept
-on multiple machines, and occasionally being 'brought into sync'
-with each other. If I send you a draft article and you comment on it,
-and I make changes too, and later I merge the two divergent
-versions back together, 'syncing' seems approximately right,
-but 'replication' seems completely wrong to me.
-
-hemppah's reply:
-Hm ;).
-When same data is kept on multiple mahcines, each instance is called replica
-of data. When we merge different *versions* of replicas to same 'version', this
-is called replication.
-
-When we want information to exchanged between different kind of *machines*
-(e.g. between TabletPC's calendar and Notes), we call it syncing.
-
-Above is described how things work in Notes and what terms are used. And, your
-example is just that what replication does in Notes; merge changes, made in
-different version of replicas, into a new *different* version.
-
-
-=======
-(Of course, this is very similar to 'normal' URLs, but our purpose here is to
give an example
-of how one refer to a particular data item in colloboration-like tool, like
Notes)
->>>>>>> 1.28
-
-In Notes, there are servers, which maintain replication of data, opposite to
Gzz. What is
-interesting in Notes' replication, is the fact that the replication of
database not only
-replicate the *data* but also design of data, which represent the data.
-Worth to mention is also that, even if the data and the design of data (logic
etc.) is
-in the *same* (physical) structure, data and design of data is very loosely
coupled with
-each other.
-
-Additionally, we should emphatize that how things are going towards
non-hierarchical reference models,
-for instance, Notes(hierarchical) and Gzz(non-hierarchical), which both are
based on the same
-xanalogical model.
-
-"Usability in the face of intermittent connectivity" is
-more than just mobile applications: It is also copying data
-from one computer to another, where the two computers'
-file systems are not kept in sync through a permanent
-network connection. Hmm, maybe "Usability in the face
-of irregular synchronization" or some such would
-make it clearer?
-
-Ok, let's split that in two:
-
-- Usability in the face of intermittent connectivity
- (we cannot access data stored on the internet)
-- Usability in the face of non-synchronization
- (we can have two independent versions of something
- on two unconnected computers and we can easily
- synchronize the two versions when desired)
-
-=======
6. Peer-to-peer implementations
===============================
->>>>>>> 1.44
XXX
- [Gzz-commits] manuscripts/storm article.rst, (continued)
- [Gzz-commits] manuscripts/storm article.rst, Benja Fallenstein, 2003/01/27
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