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Re: Oldest running Emacs version
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Barry Margolin |
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Re: Oldest running Emacs version |
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Tue, 06 May 2003 15:31:12 GMT |
In article <mailman.5614.1052211157.21513.help-gnu-emacs@gnu.org>,
Niels Freimann <nfreimann@firemail.de> wrote:
>On Tuesday 06 May 2003 01:08, Barry Margolin wrote:
>
>> t's almost certainly ITS EMACS, which runs on PDP-10/20 machines running ITS
>> or TOPS-20.
>
>No, it cant be true. ITS editor macros was written entirely in TECO and
>not Lisp. It was ported to Tenex and TOPS-20 operating systems by Stallman
>and McMahon. Therefore both the ITS and the TOPS-20 emacsens were TECO ,
>and not maclisp (multics) or moclisp (unix), emacsens. What the posters found
>on the pdp-10 emulator was not Richards ITS emacs. ITS was an experimental
>OS of the MIT written by hackers.
I know, I was there from 1979 to 1983. The first EMACS I used was ITS
EMACS, then Multics Emacs. Over the years I've also used Gosling (later
renamed Unipress) Emacs, Zimmerman's Emacs, ZWEI, Epsilon, and TV.
I don't know what you've got, but it's not Multics Emacs. I was the last
maintainer of Multics Emacs, when I worked for Honeywell Bull until they
cancelled Multics development. It was never ported to any other system.
It wouldn't have been impossible, but it would have been quite a bit of
work, because it made use of lots of Multics-specific features.
There are a few other Emacs-like editors for PDP-10's. For instance, Mike
Kazar at CMU wrote FINE. However, Craig Finseth's FAQ on Emacs
implementations doesn't list any of them that use Lisp as their extension
language.
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