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Re: 64 bit official Windows builds
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Eli Zaretskii |
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Re: 64 bit official Windows builds |
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Fri, 12 Feb 2016 10:51:20 +0200 |
> From: Óscar Fuentes <ofv@wanadoo.es>
> Date: Fri, 12 Feb 2016 09:16:13 +0100
>
> >> Not saying that GNU Find will be representative of what you can expect
> >> from Emacs. (GNU Find: I/O bound; Emacs: user bound.)
> >
> > Performance only matters when you do prolonged operations. One such
> > prolonged operation in Emacs is reading a directory in Dired, in which
> > case what Emacs does is quite similar to what Find does. For someone
> > who uses Dired extensively, the GNU Find example is not irrelevant.
>
> Are there reports about Dired being slow on Windows 32 bits? Just
> curious.
Compared to what? a Posix host that runs 'ls' instead? you betcha!
Comparing that to a 64-bit Emacs would be a good measurement, I think.
I didn't try that.
> > Memory- and CPU-intensive operations is another matter. But here,
> > too, I'd welcome actual measurements more than theories. Measurements
> > can and do surprise, as is known to anyone who ever profiled a
> > real-life program.
>
> I'm glad you think this way. So now we have agreed that the existence of
> a dramatic performance gap between 32 and 64 bits Emacs executables and
> its cause being API thunking is just a theory of yours based on limited
> evidence :-)
I actually said that already in my reply to Stefan, didn't I?
> My also (limited) evidence is that 64 bit Windows binaries can be a bit
> faster than 32 bit ones, and vice-versa. For instance: my experience
> building complex C++ code with GCC is that the 32 bit compiler runs a
> bit faster than its 64 bit version. For Emacs, I see no difference, it
> is responsive on both systems.
Responsiveness is not what is at stake here, as I already wrote. You
need some prolonged operation, either I/O intensive or CPU- or
memory-intensive (or both). Try repeatedly searching a regexp through
a large buffer, or run XML validation on a large XML document, or
anything similar.
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, (continued)
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/02/08
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Óscar Fuentes, 2016/02/08
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Stefan Monnier, 2016/02/11
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/02/11
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Óscar Fuentes, 2016/02/11
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/02/12
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Óscar Fuentes, 2016/02/12
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Eli Zaretskii, 2016/02/12
- Re: 64 bit official Windows builds, Óscar Fuentes, 2016/02/12
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