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Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on eve


From: Po Lu
Subject: Re: Would there be a drawback of using the same graphical toolkit on every platform?
Date: Mon, 21 Feb 2022 09:02:25 +0800
User-agent: Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/28.0.91 (gnu/linux)

Arthur Miller <arthur.miller@live.com> writes:

> I think you will have to reflect on what I have said. I have posted an
> article about why Emacs is not very compatible with Gtk, and probably
> wouldn't be compatible with Qt either, even if there was a suitable C
> interface Emacs could use. We can certainly agree to disagree about
> the article, but you should definitely reflect better over what I
> wrote and why. I didn't lobbied for Gtk to become the one and only
> toolkit to use, I just opposed your rhetorics about Gtk bugs, "devs
> strange ideas" and what not, and the impression you left on the
> person. I am not trying to be impolite or unrespectful, but I find
> your arguments and rhetorics often dogmatic.

Your argument can only be convincing if you have spent most of the past
week dealing with various instances of using GTK interfaces such as
`gtk_window_set_geometry_hints' according to their documentation, only
to see them do something completely different.

I have.  And I'm not convinced.

> Sure we can agree on that one. But you used rhetorics that left
> impression it depends on bugs, and Gtk devs having their own strange
> ideas about something. Those are different reasons but not being
> suitable by design. Read my very first replay in this thread, it
> should have been clear there.

Many of the problems in GTK affecting Emacs are bugs contradicting their
documented behavior that the GTK developers don't want to fix, since
they find Emacs not sufficiently important.


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