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Re: [lp-ca-on] Ontario government forms
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Daniel Villarreal |
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Re: [lp-ca-on] Ontario government forms |
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Wed, 18 May 2016 13:14:53 -0400 |
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On 05/18/2016 10:26 AM, Stewart C. Russell wrote:
> Hi Daniel,
Hi Stewart, thank you for the information.
>> ... question about forms at the Government of Ontario ...
>> http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/
>
> Looking at a few of these, I see that they are produced by a huge
> range of different software. Different versions of Adobe Distiller
> and LiveCycle should be considered entirely different pieces of
> software.
>
> At best, PDF is just marks on paper. Any meaning you can intuit
> from the document is merely a side-effect.
>
> Adobe has two different form technologies out there:
>
> * AcroForm - a basic key/value structure. Included in ISO
> standard.
>
> * XFA - an extended form structure with better Unicode handling.
>
> On top of both of these, there's the possibility of JavaScript
> managing some background logic. And then there's encryption, which
> may or may not allow you to fill forms on Linux.
>
>
So, which form did you try?
I tried one of the following...
search for "statement of conscience" at http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca
Form Title Form Number Ministry
Statement of Conscience or Religious Belief New 010-3042E
Education
Statement of Conscience or Religious Belief Immunization of School
Pupils Act 014-4897-64E Health and Long-Term Care
Statement of Medical Exemption New 010-3041E Education
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01
Statement of Conscience or Religious Belief 010-3042E
http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/forms/ssbforms.nsf/FormDetail?Ope
nForm&ACT=RDR&TAB=PROFILE&SRCH=1&ENV=WWE&TIT=statement+of+conscience&NO=
010-3042E
You must download Adobe Acrobat Reader (version 9.0 or above) to
view/print PDF forms.
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02
Statement of Conscience or Religious Belief Immunization of School
Pupils Act 014-4897-64E Health and Long-Term Care
http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/forms/ssbforms.nsf/FormDetail?Ope
nForm&ACT=RDR&TAB=PROFILE&SRCH=1&ENV=WWE&TIT=statement+of+conscience&NO=
014-4897-64E
- ----------------------------------------------------
03
Statement of Medical Exemption New 010-3041E Education
http://www.forms.ssb.gov.on.ca/mbs/ssb/forms/ssbforms.nsf/FormDetail?Ope
nForm&ACT=RDR&TAB=PROFILE&SRCH=1&ENV=WWE&TIT=statement+of+conscience&NO=
010-3041E
> I looked at two:
>
> * SR-LV-129E.pdf - Application for Accessible Parking Permit
> (LiveCycle 11, XFA, Encrypted)
>
> * 0022E.pdf - Application for Ontario’s Home Energy Audit Grant
> (Distiller 9, AcroForm, Encrypted)
>
> With Evince 3.18.2 I was able to edit both forms, save and reload
> changes, and print the form with form content. The only glitch was
> printing checkboxes, which came out as very faint dots. I suspect
> it's a font thing; PDF adds a level of font embedding hell that
> makes Windows DLL hell look tame.
Wow, well, there's a lot of fonts available in the GNU/Linux
repositories, and I've looked at quite a few and installed quite a
few... but aside from installing stuff for ancient Egyptian
hieroglyphs, I don't mess with this too much.
>> Is there a way for someone to do this using the stock Fedora
>> repositories?
>
> I don't use Fedora, but my results are from a pretty stock Ubuntu
> 16.04.
I will try more programs and distributions.
>> If someone has already researched this, does this mean that
>> there are alternatives available
>
> They provide plain text versions of many of the forms, which is
> accessible, but not very polite... cheers, Stewart
Well, good to know that there's plain text. I wouldn't state that
plain text is impolite :)
Perhaps plain text gives people the opportunity to use free/libre
software to do the same thing or something akin to the same thing?
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