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From: Ricky Mujica
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] libreplanet-discuss Digest, Vol 21, Issue 3
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 14:47:34 -0400

Way to discourage people from converting to free software. The guy asked a question, instead of a reprimand why don't you give him an answer and some suggestions?
It's a small step from Ubuntu to fully free, why don't you help him instead of giving him a patronizing obnoxious answer?

 Have you tried:
Skencil:
http://www.nongnu.org/skencil/

xara
http://www.xaraxtreme.org/

inkscape
http://inkscape.org/


R

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Today's Topics:

  1. Pixen Alternative for Linux (C. A. MacFinn)
  2. Re: Best E-reader to buy (Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva)
  3. Re: Pixen Alternative for Linux (Brendan Murray)
  4. Re: Pixen Alternative for Linux (al3xu5 / dotcommon)
  5. Re: Pixen Alternative for Linux (Daniel Mart?)
  6. Re: Pixen Alternative for Linux (Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva)
  7. Re: Pixen Alternative for Linux (al3xu5 / dotcommon)
  8. Re: Pixen Alternative for Linux (Ted Smith)


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Message: 1
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 12:43:07 -0400
From: C. A. MacFinn <ca@cgmuse.com>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
Message-ID: <A700F950-8225-4909-B780-6D7E544CCA60@cgmuse.com">A700F950-8225-4909-B780-6D7E544CCA60@cgmuse.com>
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I am working for a graphics company that needs an application that will make sprite sheets and animated gifs.  We have been using Pixen on the Mac but are switching many of our workstations to Linux.  Is there anything equivalent to Pixen that runs well on Ubuntu?

Thanks,

C. A. MacFinn


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Message: 2
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:08:02 +0200
From: Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva <pitanga@members.fsf.org>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Best E-reader to buy
Message-ID: <4E665372.9080703@members.fsf.org">4E665372.9080703@members.fsf.org>
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On 09/05/2011 06:50 PM, Louis Roch? wrote:
> Booken sells books that work with free software only.

what do you mean by "work with free software only"? If you mean "run
only free software" I'm afraid you are wrong:

> Software Suite
>
> OS : Linux 2.6
> *Adobe? ePUB/PDF Reader*
> Multi-format reader
> HTML, TXT, JPG, GIF, PNG
> Bouton Retour
> Folder support
> USB drive

As a matter of fact, running free software only is not enough to enable
user's freedom at full. One must also be able to modify the software
that is running on the device, that is, build and run their own version
- something granted by the GPLv3 (and not by v2).

--
Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva

http://garoa.net.br
http://polignu.org
http://gnu.org



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Message: 3
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 18:08:57 +0100
From: Brendan Murray <brendanpmurray@gmail.com>
To: "C. A. MacFinn" <ca@cgmuse.com>
Cc: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
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Here's a good comparison:
http://speckyboy.com/2009/04/06/19-amazing-free-graphic-and-image-editors-for-designers-and-photographers/

On 6 September 2011 17:43, C. A. MacFinn <ca@cgmuse.com> wrote:

> I am working for a graphics company that needs an application that will
> make sprite sheets and animated gifs.  We have been using Pixen on the Mac
> but are switching many of our workstations to Linux.  Is there anything
> equivalent to Pixen that runs well on Ubuntu?
>
> Thanks,
>
> C. A. MacFinn
>
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Message: 4
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:14:31 +0200
From: al3xu5 / dotcommon <dotcommon@autistici.org>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
Message-ID: <20110906191431.50d5c743@arrakis.localorg>
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Il giorno marted? 06/09/2011 12:43:07 CEST
C. A. MacFinn <ca@cgmuse.com> ha scritto:

> I am working for a graphics company that needs an application that
> will make sprite sheets and animated gifs.  We have been using Pixen
> on the Mac but are switching many of our workstations to Linux.  Is
> there anything equivalent to Pixen that runs well on Ubuntu?

maybe you can try:

- MyPaint
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MyPaint
http://mypaint.intilinux.com/

- XPaint
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/XPaint
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Xpaint-2.9.1-screenshot.png

- RawTherapee
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/RawTherapee
http://rawtherapee.com/blog/features

and... insead of ubuntu... please, it is quite better if using a
fully libre GNU/Linux system:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

Regards
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Message: 5
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:16:49 +0200
From: Daniel Mart? <danielmarti.debian@gmail.com>
To: al3xu5 / dotcommon <dotcommon@autistici.org>,
       libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
Message-ID: <4c6f0862-19b4-4489-9881-6505bb77a6f1@email.android.com">4c6f0862-19b4-4489-9881-6505bb77a6f1@email.android.com>
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Would you say the same to someone using Debian?

al3xu5 / dotcommon <dotcommon@autistici.org> wrote:

Il giorno marted? 06/09/2011 12:43:07 CEST
C. A. MacFinn <ca@cgmuse.com> ha scritto:

> I am working for a graphics company that needs an application that
> will make sprite sheets and animated gifs. We have been using Pixen
> on the Mac but are switching many of our workstations to Linux. Is
> there anything equivalent to Pixen that runs well on Ubuntu?

maybe you can try:

- MyPaint
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/MyPaint
http://mypaint.intilinux.com/

- XPaint
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/XPaint
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/File:Xpaint-2.9.1-screenshot.png

- RawTherapee
https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/RawTherapee
http://rawtherapee.com/blog/features

and... insead of ubuntu... please, it is quite better if using a
fully libre GNU/Linux system:
https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html

Regards
--
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Message: 6
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 19:19:16 +0200
From: Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva <pitanga@members.fsf.org>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
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On 09/06/2011 07:16 PM, Daniel Mart? wrote:
> Would you say the same to someone using Debian?

I would.

--
Rodrigo Rodrigues da Silva

http://garoa.net.br
http://polignu.org
http://gnu.org



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Message: 7
Date: Tue, 6 Sep 2011 19:44:09 +0200
From: al3xu5 / dotcommon <dotcommon@autistici.org>
To: libreplanet-discuss ML <libreplanet-discuss@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
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Il giorno marted? 06/09/2011 19:16:49 CEST
Daniel Mart? <danielmarti.debian@gmail.com> ha scritto:

> Would you say the same to someone using Debian?

This seems quite off-topic...

Anyway: yes, i would.

At the same time, despite Debian is not in the FSF's free distros list
I know it is (now, since squeeze) very near to be a fully free distro
(and thre are rumors that FSF and Debian are discussing about this...).
Conversely, Ubuntu is very FAR to be a free distro.

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Message: 8
Date: Tue, 06 Sep 2011 13:58:35 -0400
From: Ted Smith <tedks@riseup.net>
To: libreplanet-discuss@libreplanet.org
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] Pixen Alternative for Linux
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On Tue, 2011-09-06 at 19:44 +0200, al3xu5 / dotcommon wrote:
> Il giorno marted? 06/09/2011 19:16:49 CEST
> Daniel Mart? <danielmarti.debian@gmail.com> ha scritto:
>
> > Would you say the same to someone using Debian?
>
> This seems quite off-topic...
>
> Anyway: yes, i would.
>
> At the same time, despite Debian is not in the FSF's free distros list
> I know it is (now, since squeeze) very near to be a fully free distro
> (and thre are rumors that FSF and Debian are discussing about this...).
> Conversely, Ubuntu is very FAR to be a free distro.
>
> Regards

Ubuntu can be configured to install only free software, and you can
install linux-libre, which makes it as free as Debian is, as far as I'm
concerned.

I haven't heard any "rumors" about the FSF and "Debian" (Debian is huge;
what part of debian are you talking about?) "discussing" Debian's
freedom status. Debian's freedom status is clear and obvious as long as
it keeps recommending non-free software.
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