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Re: [libreplanet-discuss] talos


From: Adam Van Ymeren
Subject: Re: [libreplanet-discuss] talos
Date: Thu, 12 Jan 2017 09:22:48 -0500

On Thu, Jan 12, 2017 at 7:31 AM, Fabián Rodríguez
<magicfab@member.fsf.org> wrote:
>
>
> On 12/01/17 03:12 AM, Catonano wrote:
>> Today, january 12, only 454 pledges have been made to the Talos proect
>> crowdunding campaign page.
>>
>> https://www.crowdsupply.com/raptor-computing-systems/talos-secure-workstation
>>
>> This is not just a missed target. This is something more, as if there
>> was a reection of the proect.
>>
>> The freedom sensble community is small, yes, but not this small.
>>
>> What's going on ?
>>
>
> I'll share my impressions since you asked:
>
> * Give $10 or $250 - no options in-between
> * No T-shirts, no stickers
> * 6 months shared SSH-access for 250$?
> * Absurd amount of information to digest in every update (even for me)
>
> Setting up a smaller goal, usable rewards and easier-to-digest updates
> would have helped a lot. Now this only looks like another failed
> out-of-touch-with-reality project.
>
> As it is, I didn't even contribute $10 as I had the distinct impression
> the project would fail. How can I ever advocate this?

You were convinced they would fail if they got funding? Or convinced
they would fail to get their desired funding?

>
> I have given / donated generously to many Free software projects and
> organizations (including the FSF) and have often convinced others to do
> so (even refering new people to join
> http://www.fsf.org/associate/referrers/referrerlist ) but honestly Talos
> was outside of anything I could refer, in any way.

I really wanted Talos to succeed, but I think the core issue is the
pieces were just too expensive  $3700 just for a mainboard not
including the CPU.

They raised over twice as the EOMA68 project which was also freedom
respecting. (https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop).

$3.7 million was just too big of a target.

>
> F.
>
> --
> Fabián Rodríguez
> http://fsf.magicfab.ca/
>
>



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