Re: [Linphone-users] I have never seen Linphone actually work

[Kate Draven]

I really don't get what everyone is talking about. It's actually very simple.
Perhaps it's a MS and Apple thing?
I've been using linphone for years without problems.
I have people with no computer experience setting it up in about 30 mins with 
some basic help.

What OS/Distro is everyone running. I did see lots of problems with most 
ubuntus.

Kate

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> It seems that one needs to be skilled at computer programming to use 
> the Linphone interface successfully.  That is my point here... I am not 
> a code savvy person. I just need an interface that allows me to make 
> phone calls. Once you start telling me that I have to troubleshoot the 
> code to make it work then I am lost.  This is definitely not a 
> user-friendly application.
> 
> Ken
> 
> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM, Ken <aloha@alphaomega.to> wrote:
> > 
> > 
> > On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM, Gerard Vanderveken <gerard@ghia.eu> 
> > wrote:
> >> Hi Ken,
> >> 
> >> It is a kind of Zip file. Use 7-zip or équivalent to extract the 
> >> file.
> >> 
> >> Rename the resulting file eventual with addition of .txt for more 
> >> convience and/or open it with a text viewer/editor.
> >> 
> >> 
> >> Your file is perfect readable, but i'm not qualified enough to 
> >> interpret the messages.
> >> 
> > Neither am I...!
> >> Success,
> >> 
> >> Gerard
> >> 
> >> Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 12:10:
> >> 
> >>> I tried a call and here is the log entry that I received.
> >>> https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz
> >>> 
> >>> I cannot open it so I'm not sure about what to do?
> >>> 
> >>> Thanks, Ken
> >>> 
> >>> On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:08 PM, Gerard Vanderveken 
> >>> <gerard@ghia.eu> wrote:
> >>>> Hi Ken,
> >>>> 
> >>>> Did you allready inspect the logs?
> >>>> 
> >>>> menu - preferences - advanced - debugging - set to on
> >>>> 
> >>>> menu - about - clear logs
> >>>> 
> >>>> Do your tests for connecting
> >>>> 
> >>>> menu - about - send logs (to yourself)
> >>>> 
> >>>> Menu item texts are translated and may slightly differ.
> >>>> 
> >>>> Greetz
> >>>> 
> >>>> Gerard
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 10:29:
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Hi Kate.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Main Symptom: I cannot make outbound calls.  I do not find the UI 
> >>>>> to be very intuitive or helpful in directing the user in this 
> >>>>> regard. There is no dial pad or audible feedback. I see something 
> >>>>> that looks like the search bar for a web browser... Am I supposed 
> >>>>> to enter the number that I want to call into this bar? I try that 
> >>>>> and it appears to be trying to connect the call although there is 
> >>>>> no dial tone or audible ringing, just some dots that spin in a 
> >>>>> circle and then the call attempt appears to time out.  I have to 
> >>>>> assume all of this because there are no messages or feedback from 
> >>>>> the UI that tells me what it is or isn't doing.  I have no idea 
> >>>>> of what is happening or why the call does not connect.  That is 
> >>>>> about all that I can tell you.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> I'm pretty sure that my SIP account registers when the program 
> >>>>> starts but that is about all that I can tell you.
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Thanks, Ken
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:27 PM, Kate Draven 
> >>>>> <borgqueen4@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>>> On Thursday 25 June 2020, Ken wrote:
> >>>>>>> I just installed the 4.2 beta "App Image" version of Linphone 
> >>>>>>> on my Linux Mint Desktop with the hope that I might actually be 
> >>>>>>> able to make calls with it from my personal, Xeloq, SIP 
> >>>>>>> account. The account will register but I have never been able 
> >>>>>>> to make a call. It is amusing to see all of the highly detailed 
> >>>>>>> technical questions being posted here and I can sympathize with 
> >>>>>>> the users because I have never been able to get the blinking 
> >>>>>>> thing to work at all.
> >>>>>> 
> >>>>>> ok strange because I use it all the time with no problems. Parts 
> >>>>>> LFS and PCLOS with Trinity DE. What exactly are the symptoms? 
> >>>>>> Thanks, Kate _______________________________________________ 
> >>>>>> Linphone-users mailing list Linphone-users@nongnu.org 
> >>>>>> https://lists.nongnu.org/mailman/listinfo/linphone-users
> >>>>> 
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> <div id="geary-body" dir="auto">It seems that one needs to be skilled at 
computer programming to use the Linphone interface successfully. &nbsp;That 
is my point here... I am not a code savvy person. I just need an interface 
that allows me to make phone calls. Once you start telling me that I have to 
troubleshoot the code to make it work then I am lost. &nbsp;This is 
definitely not a user-friendly 
application.<div><br></div><div>Ken</div></div><div id="geary-quote" 
dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 7:50 PM, Ken 
&lt;aloha@alphaomega.to&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><div 
id="geary-body" dir="auto"><div><br></div></div><div id="geary-quote" 
dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 6:26 PM, Gerard Vanderveken 
&lt;gerard@ghia.eu&gt; wrote:<br><blockquote type="cite"><meta 
http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=UTF-8">
> <p>Hi Ken,</p>
> <p>It is a kind of Zip file. Use 7-zip or équivalent to extract the 
file.</p>
> <p>Rename the resulting file eventual with addition of .txt for more 
convience and/or open it with a text viewer/editor.</p>
> <div id="signature">&nbsp;</div>
> <p>Your file is perfect readable, but i'm not qualified enough to interpret 
the messages.</p></blockquote><b>Neither am I...!</b><br><blockquote 
type="cite">
> <p>Success,</p>
> <p>Gerard</p>
> <p id="reply-intro">Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 12:10:</p>
> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px 
solid; margin: 0">
> <div id="replybody1">
> <div id="v1geary-body" dir="auto">
> <div>I tried a call and here is the log entry that I received.</div>
> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;"><a 
href="https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz"; 
target="_blank" rel="noopener 
noreferrer">https://www.linphone.org:444//tmp/5ef5c6eb0fdd3_74c9f6588f30603e9d37.gz</a></span></div>
> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">&nbsp;</span></div>
> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">I cannot open it so I'm 
not sure about what to do?</span></div>
> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">&nbsp;</span></div>
> <div><span style="font-family: -webkit-standard;">Thanks, Ken</span></div>
> </div>
> <div id="v1geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Fri, Jun 26, 2020 at 5:08 PM, 
Gerard Vanderveken &lt;gerard@ghia.eu&gt; wrote:<br>
> <blockquote type="cite" style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px 
solid; margin: 0">
> <p>Hi Ken,</p>
> <p>Did you allready inspect the logs?</p>
> <p>menu - preferences - advanced - debugging - set to on</p>
> <p>menu - about - clear logs</p>
> <p>Do your tests for connecting</p>
> <p>menu - about - send logs (to yourself)</p>
> <p>Menu item texts are translated and may slightly differ.</p>
> <p>Greetz</p>
> <p>Gerard</p>
> <p><br></p>
> <p><br></p>
> <div id="v1signature">&nbsp;</div>
> <p><br></p>
> <p id="v1reply-intro">Ken schreef op 2020-06-26 10:29:</p>
> <blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 
0;">
> <div id="v1replybody1">
> <div id="v1v1geary-body" dir="auto">
> <div>Hi Kate.</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>Main Symptom: I cannot make outbound calls. &nbsp;I do not find the UI 
to be very intuitive or helpful in directing the user in this regard. There 
is no dial pad or audible feedback. I see something that looks like the 
search bar for a web browser... Am I supposed to enter the number that I want 
to call into this bar? I try that and it appears to be trying to connect the 
call although there is no dial tone or audible ringing, just some dots that 
spin in a circle and then the call attempt appears to time out. &nbsp;I have 
to assume all of this because there are no messages or feedback from the UI 
that tells me what it is or isn't doing. &nbsp;I have no idea of what is 
happening or why the call does not connect. &nbsp;That is about all that I 
can tell you.</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>I'm pretty sure that my SIP account registers when the program starts 
but that is about all that I can tell you.</div>
> <div>&nbsp;</div>
> <div>Thanks, Ken</div>
> </div>
> <div id="v1v1geary-quote" dir="auto"><br>On Thu, Jun 25, 2020 at 10:27 PM, 
Kate Draven &lt;borgqueen4@gmail.com&gt; wrote:<br>
> <blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 
0;">
> <div class="v1v1plaintext" style="white-space: pre-wrap;">On Thursday 25 
June 2020, Ken wrote:
> <blockquote style="padding: 0 0.4em; border-left: #1010ff 2px solid; margin: 
0;">I just installed the 4.2 beta "App Image" version of Linphone on my Linux 
Mint Desktop with the hope that I might actually be able to make calls with 
it from my personal, Xeloq, SIP account. The account will register but I have 
never been able to make a call. It is amusing to see all of the highly 
detailed technical questions being posted here and I can sympathize with the 
users because I have never been able to get the blinking thing to work at 
all.</blockquote>
> ok strange because I use it all the time with no problems. Parts LFS and 
PCLOS with Trinity DE. What exactly are the symptoms? Thanks, Kate 
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