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Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??
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Eric Ortega |
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Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post?? |
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Mon, 16 Dec 2002 11:29:32 -0800 |
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Mutt/1.4i |
On Fri, Dec 13, 2002 at 07:50:10PM -0700, Duncan wrote:
> On Fri 13 Dec 2002 14:27, Eric Ortega posted as excerpted below:
> > Debian, for example, uses a link from /usr/bin/vi to /etc/alternatives/vi,
> > which then points to /usr/bin/vim or /bin/vi depending on which packages
> > you have installed.
> >
> > I would assume that something happened when he typed 'vi' that was not
> > cool. /bin/vi (on most installations) is only dependent, at most,
> > on libraries in /lib for good reason.
>
> I thought the same. However, at least on Mdk, vi is a link to vim, which
> requires libraries (perl based, IIRC from the error) in /usr.
This is why I suggested that you may not have realized that you could
probably actually run "vi" itself by a command like '/bin/vi'. Just 'vi'
from a shell will probably attempt to run '/usr/bin/vi' first, which will
then do the symlink thing, etc, etc.
It would be incredibly bad of the Mandrake distribution to not provide
a "real" copy of the old-school vi for just these sorts of occasions.
In my Debian installation /bin/vi takes up 3.6 kB. (or is that kiB or
KiB or ??)
This is topical if you were to, say, install a CVS copy of PAN into your
~/bin/ directory and then wanted to run it as opposed to the distribution's
copy. You would run ~/bin/pan as opposed to 'pan' to ensure that the
proper copy is run.
> I STILL don't quite understand what perl libraries and extensions should be
> needed for VI, but evidently they are, at least on Mdk, and THEY are on /usr.
vi doesn't need them. vim, if compiled to use these things, can. You can
run perl scripts and whatever from the ":" prompt in vim. (Note that this
is different from ':!perl -e ...' as it's actually interpreted within vim,
allowing for more fanciness).
<snip>
> prerequisite. Obviously, this person would disagree with me, however, as
> they were calling themselves that, while yet dependent on RH spoon-feeding
> them an appropriate kernel. That anyone could even THINK of being so bold,
> was certainly an eye opener to me, as I early on set out to be the exact
> opposite of the characteristics manifest there.
As a piece of advice ;), never underestimate user's abilities to
misinterpret the capabilities, and demands, of the machines they are running.
Some people claim "Linux developer" status if they install a modern
distribution and then write and compile 'Hello, world.'
Others will never claim "Linux developer" status until they have a patch
accepted on lkml.
Title means little when it comes down to it.
Right, Charles, Our Most Esteemed And Holy Pan Developer? [1]
[1] Isn't that what you wanted to be called, I forget sometimes.
- OT: Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, (continued)
- Re: OT: Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Duncan, 2002/12/13
- Re: OT: Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Eric Ortega, 2002/12/13
- Re: OT: Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Brian Morrison, 2002/12/13
- Re: OT: Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Eric Ortega, 2002/12/13
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom, 2002/12/13
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Eric Ortega, 2002/12/13
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Duncan, 2002/12/13
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??,
Eric Ortega <=
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, John J. LeMay Jr., 2002/12/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Eric Ortega, 2002/12/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Duncan, 2002/12/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Eric Ortega, 2002/12/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Carl Wilhelm Soderstrom, 2002/12/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Duncan, 2002/12/16
- Re: [Pan-users] Click on URL in a post??, Mark Janssen, 2002/12/17