Re: [Pan-users] What tells Pan where to save??

[Rob]

On 11/27/2012 04:07 PM, Rhialto wrote:
> In fact, to build java, you need a working java. The Sun sources have
> (apparently deliberately) been made extra difficult to bootstrap.
...
> Entirely un-free.

OpenJDK is GPL, doesn't require binary Java to build, and has been the 
reference implementation of Java for at least a year now. From the horse's 
mouth:

https://blogs.oracle.com/henrik/entry/moving_to_openjdk_as_the

Its build requirements do include gcj, but that's part of GCC, which you 
presumably have up and running. I've heard of people bootstrapping it using 
JamVM, but gcj is what Debian has been using since 2008:

http://www.quantenblog.net/free-software/openjdk-debian

I'm not a huge fan of Java -- whatever its proponents may claim, non-trivial 
Java software on real-world systems tends to use more resources than C-based 
equivalents or even competent Python or Perl code, which is why even Google 
uses native code for some of their Android apps -- but the situation is far 
better than it once was.

Rob