Re: [security-discuss] Freedom 0: the utilitarian vs. the deontologist

[Jean Louis]

On Thu, Mar 09, 2017 at 04:03:34AM -0500, Alfred M. Szmidt wrote:
>    GNU Radio Foundation, Inc. is denying freedom 0 to GNU wget users.
>    The only GNU Radio users being denied freedom 0 are those who are
>    also GNU wget users.
> 
> 1) GNU wget users are not being "denied" access to GNU radio via Tor.
>    Here is me downloading GNU radio via Tor using GNU wget:
> 
>   $ wget http://gnuradio.org/releases/gnuradio/gnuradio-3.7.10.1.tar.gz
>   --2017-03-09 09:49:15--  
> http://gnuradio.org/releases/gnuradio/gnuradio-3.7.10.1.tar.gz
>   Resolving gnuradio.org... 104.28.6.113, 104.28.7.113, 
> 2400:cb00:2048:1::681c:771, ...
>   Connecting to gnuradio.org|104.28.6.113|:80... connected.
>   HTTP request sent, awaiting response... 200 OK
>   Length: 4272430 (4.1M) [application/x-gzip]
>   Saving to: ‘gnuradio-3.7.10.1.tar.gz’
>   
>   gnuradio-3.7.10.1.t 100%[===================>]   4.07M  4.04MB/s    in 1.0s 
>    
>   
>   2017-03-09 09:49:16 (4.04 MB/s) - ‘gnuradio-3.7.10.1.tar.gz’ saved
>   [4272430/4272430]

That it works on your side, it means not it works on someone's else
side.

That is not a proof that you have used Tor, and overall, there are
many Tor exits, which are treated different, unjustified, by
Cloudfront.

> 2) By saying that the GNU Radio Foundation is "denying access" you are
>    saying that they have activley taken decisions to make it
>    impossible, or very hard to download GNU Radio, they have done no
>    such thing.

I agree fully that they are not doing it actively, but also not
proactively finding better solution to serve the files.

Jean Louis