Ohhh! You're just saying that OStatus
doesn't support HTTP-based identifiers.
OStatus does support HTTP-based identifiers. You can
follow me as address@hidden or http://identi.ca/evan. For
StatusNet, in fact, your permanent URI is an HTTP-based one; mine
is http://identi.ca/user/1.
-Evan
On 2012-12-07 11:38, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
On 7 December 2012 16:30, Evan Prodromou
<address@hidden>
wrote:
That's an interesting position, considering that there
are 2-4 OOM more people on the OStatus network than on
every other federated social network put together.
What's your position?
Facebook has it right, tent is almost there, OStatus has it
wrong. Many of the constituent technologies of OStatus have
been described as 'fails' by the authors, tho this is I think
is too strong.
Build a federated network based on http identifiers, rather
than, trying to breathe life into webmail style identifiers.
Tolerance in the identity space is what allows scaling.
This was the advice given to GNU Social when Matt Lee met with
Tim Berners-Lee. It's as true today as it was then.
-Evan
On 2012-12-07 05:39, Melvin Carvalho wrote:
Thanks for forwarding. OStatus
was never going to scale.
One of the stand out projects right now is:
http://my-profile.eu
Lorea is also good. Tent is promising but not yet
mature enough. Openlink Data Spaces
I have a list here:
http://www.w3.org/community/rww/wiki/Social_Systems
There's a triangle (not zookos) of scalability /
security / innovation
Let's work together on this and embrace the web 100%
... we just need to do the same as facebook but
decentralized, which is exactly what the architecture
of the web is.
On 7 December 2012 02:14,
hellekin (GNU/social) <address@hidden>
wrote:
Here
is the message I originally sent to this list, but
it got stuck in
the way. Sorry for that.
-------- Original Message --------
Subject: GNU/social legacy
Date: Sat, 20 Oct 2012 03:39:51 -0300
From: hellekin <address@hidden>
To: address@hidden
CC: address@hidden
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Dear list members,
as you may have noticed, the Chief GNUisance have
reassigned the GNU
Social project to become an umbrella project for
free distributed
social network interoperability, under my and
Daniel's direction.
If you're in a hurry, skip to the link at the
bottom of this message.
Although it might come as a takeover from Matt
Lee's original project,
I rather see it as a correction of scope; on
August 25, 2009, Matt
wrote: "The goal here is to create a new social
platform, from
scratch, that has liberty and freedom built in
from the start."
The scope was to create software that would
encompass the "social
platform". But we learned that online social
networking is more than
software, and more than technology--it's an
ontological issue, a
matter of worldview: a matter of freedom, of
invention, of complexity.
Hence, we do not intend to create a distinct
software package, but
instead to leverage existing free software
projects, encouraging their
constituents to embrace the GNU way, and leaving
open all
possibilities, including that someone comes up
with a new
implementation from scratch.
For years, many have been working around the
planet and the clock to
deliver working software to support local
communities, activists,
promote and defend freedom, free speech, privacy,
community,
decentralization, using exclusively free software,
according to the
values we cherish most, and consider necessary to
the success of humanity.
Confident that social networking is a nascent, and
yet-to-be-defined
field, we want to foster research and cooperation,
and support a
diversity of approaches.
In the next days, I will make space for the new
GNU/social on
Savannah, etc. I opened the Task Tracker[1] on
Savannah to inform you
about my whereabouts.
I intend to keep only a minimal amount of lists
before we feel the
need to add more, and that would be address@hidden
for general
discussion and address@hidden for
announcements.
At this point, my main concern is to archive the
existing contents and
try not to break too many links. I'm opened to all
suggestions as to
how to proceed with the legacy of this project.
I leave to each list member the liberty to
un-subscribe if they wish,
but I'd like to reset the members list on Savannah
to ensure everyone
is willing to participate in this new installment
of GNU/social. If
that means losing personal configurations or some
data, please tell
me, so we can find a better solution together.
Finally, I want to thank all the people and
projects that made this
GNU/social possible, and look forward to serving
the GNU/social order,
disorder, chaos, science, freedom, poetry, and
bliss.
Thank you for your attention, and happy hacking,
==
hk
[1] http://savannah.gnu.org/task/?group=social
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1124 rue Marie-Anne Est #32, Montreal, Quebec, Canada H2J 2B7
E: address@hidden P: +1-514-554-3826
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