Re: XG programChange -- Was: Re: [fluid-dev]

[Peter Gebauer]

Hi again, Jimmy!

It's hard to search for these things, 99% of the hits are online stores
selling Yamaha products. In any case, the midi events logged contain just
one program change event, the rest are control changes and system 
exclusives.
I really don't know why they aren't simply sending one program change,
I cannot make any sense of what it sends now. Maybe I can force it into
GM only mode.

/Peter

On 2009-02-16 (Mon) 09:47, jimmy wrote:
> > Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:30:05 +0100
> > From: Peter Gebauer
> > <address@hidden>
> >
> > Hi Jimmy,
> > 
> > migth this be what happens with my Yamaha P-85 when I
> > change istrument?
> > 
> > Logged midi events when changing:
> > 
> >   2754,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 73
> > 7f 4b 11 00 45 
> >   00 f7
> >   2752,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,94,0
> >   2752,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,9,f0 43 10
> > 4c 08 00 11 7f f7
> >   2751,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 10
> > 4c 02 01 40 00 
> >   00 f7
> >   2749,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,91,25
> >   2749,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 10
> > 4c 02 01 00 01 
> >   11 f7
> >   2747,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 73
> > 7f 4b 11 00 45 
> >   7f f7
> >   2745,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Program change,1,0,
> >   2745,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,32,112
> >   2745,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,0,0
> > 
> > /Peter
> 
> Peter,
> 
> I don't know for sure how the Yamaha P-85 handles it.
> 
> Though, you could try to do a program change to a distinctively valid 
> instrument (piano, string, nylon guitar), then try to set it to use the same, 
> or one of the other instrument (program number) on a different and invalid 
> bank (i.e. bank #111, ...) and see how it handles that program change.
> 
> I also think that there are some sound banks that have only a few instruments 
> (not all 128 instruments).  So midi, or style files from one sound module (or 
> keyboard) will generally sound different from a different sound module, 
> because non-existing selection reverts to using the basic GM (bank 0) 128 
> instrument sounds.
> 
> If you look here:
> 
>    www.mboss.force9.co.uk/miditext/Xgvoice.txt
> 
> you can see someone had taken some notes on some XG instruments mapping 
> there.  Note the bank and prog combination.
> 
> I believe some Yamaha keyboard manuals do list their instrument map, 
> especially the more costly models.  Not 100% sure, but if interested, you can 
> search the Yamaha keyboard manual library for Tyros, Tyros2, Tyros3, 
> psr-s900, psr-s700, psr-s500, psr-9000, psr-3000, psr-1500, psr-1000, or your 
> own P-85.  I believe Yamaha also has text version of some of their keyboard 
> manuals, too, which would help if you want to take personal notes by extract 
> some of those mapping table.
> 
> Jimmy
> 
> 
> 
>       
> 
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