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Re: XG programChange -- Was: Re: [fluid-dev]


From: jimmy
Subject: Re: XG programChange -- Was: Re: [fluid-dev]
Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 09:47:38 -0800 (PST)

> Date: Mon, 16 Feb 2009 16:30:05 +0100
> From: Peter Gebauer
> <address@hidden>
>
> Hi Jimmy,
> 
> migth this be what happens with my Yamaha P-85 when I
> change istrument?
> 
> Logged midi events when changing:
> 
>   2754,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 73
> 7f 4b 11 00 45 
>   00 f7
>   2752,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,94,0
>   2752,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,9,f0 43 10
> 4c 08 00 11 7f f7
>   2751,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 10
> 4c 02 01 40 00 
>   00 f7
>   2749,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,91,25
>   2749,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 10
> 4c 02 01 00 01 
>   11 f7
>   2747,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,System exclusive,,10,f0 43 73
> 7f 4b 11 00 45 
>   7f f7
>   2745,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Program change,1,0,
>   2745,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,32,112
>   2745,M Audio Delta 1010LT:0,Control change,1,0,0
> 
> /Peter

Peter,

I don't know for sure how the Yamaha P-85 handles it.

Though, you could try to do a program change to a distinctively valid 
instrument (piano, string, nylon guitar), then try to set it to use the same, 
or one of the other instrument (program number) on a different and invalid bank 
(i.e. bank #111, ...) and see how it handles that program change.

I also think that there are some sound banks that have only a few instruments 
(not all 128 instruments).  So midi, or style files from one sound module (or 
keyboard) will generally sound different from a different sound module, because 
non-existing selection reverts to using the basic GM (bank 0) 128 instrument 
sounds.

If you look here:

   www.mboss.force9.co.uk/miditext/Xgvoice.txt

you can see someone had taken some notes on some XG instruments mapping there.  
Note the bank and prog combination.

I believe some Yamaha keyboard manuals do list their instrument map, especially 
the more costly models.  Not 100% sure, but if interested, you can search the 
Yamaha keyboard manual library for Tyros, Tyros2, Tyros3, psr-s900, psr-s700, 
psr-s500, psr-9000, psr-3000, psr-1500, psr-1000, or your own P-85.  I believe 
Yamaha also has text version of some of their keyboard manuals, too, which 
would help if you want to take personal notes by extract some of those mapping 
table.

Jimmy



      




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