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Re: Moving the list ?


From: Mark Summerfield
Subject: Re: Moving the list ?
Date: Thu, 11 Sep 2003 10:07:51 +0100

On Wednesday 10 September 2003 21:53, Greg A. Woods wrote:
> [ On Wednesday, September 10, 2003 at 15:04:45 (+0800), K. H. Man wrote: ]
>
> > Subject: Re: Moving the list ?
> >
> > Hi all,
> >
> > Sébastien Pierre wrote:
> > >  - Should we host it at sourceforge ?
> >
> > I'm in favour of SF, it does not depend on any one person.
>
> Using SF depends on one rather un-dependable company.

I agree. I'm not keen on SF either. I also like "lout.wierd.com".

> The problems I have with using sourceforge for mailing lists have
> nothing whatsoever to do with the volume of e-mail.  The fact is they've
> got some very poorly designed filtering and address verification
> techniques while at the same time continuing to leave their own DNS and
> hostname configurations broken and in violation of RFC 1123 and in such
> a state that their own mailer wouldn't pass its own checks.  This means
> effectively that they can't recieve e-mail from anyone who does anything
> even remotely similar to what they do, and they probably couldn't even
> send e-mail to themselves if they had to relay it via the public net.
>
> So, if y'all do decide to move the list to SourceForge then I'll appear
> to drop out of existance since I usually can't send e-mail to any SF
> list.  (I can still usually receive e-mail from them, though at the
> moment I'm only subscribed to their cricket-users list).
>
> So instead I'm still offering to provide a "lout" sub-domain name from
> any of the domains I control, and to host the DNS for it (and perhaps
> even try to register "lout.info" or similar), and to run the list via
> the already running GNU Mailman install on mail.planix.com (using
> whatever domain name is suitable).
>
> Note that even with a domain name like "lout.robohack.ca" or
> "lout.planix.com" or "lout.planix.ca" or "lout.wierd.com" or
> "lout.weird.ca" or maybe any number of other domains I have some
> association with, the location of the web page and the mail server is
> still independent of me.  I expect to have control over, or be
> associated with, those domains for the forseable future and even if I
> lose interest in lout I can trivially delegate them to anyone else and
> just maintain the delegation.  The Planix and "weird" domains would even
> outlive me in the event of my untimely demise.

-- 
Mark.


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