Re: [Pnet-developers] [Bug #2806] CSCC virtual memory exhausted

[James Michael DuPont]

--- Rhys Weatherley <address@hidden> wrote:

> I delete them if they don't solve the problem, introduce unnecessary
> features, 
> are unduly messy, could be done in a simpler way, or aren't in
> keeping with 
> DotGNU's core mission.  Is it my fault that this describes 99% of
> your 
> contributions to date?

The whole issue of creating debug dumps, you dont agree with. I said
that I dont expect you to accept them. I think others will use them. 

Using GDB on someone elses code is not very usefull. A debug dump, or a
well formatted stacktrace, or as least an ID for each exception as to
where it comes from 

> 
> You would find me to be much more sympathetic if you ditched your
> attempts to 
> introspector-ize pnet by stealth, focused on fixing problems instead
> of 
> adding debug code, and started working on things that actually move
> pnet 
> towards ECMA-complete.  

Stealth? I think that it is quite funny.
I am not doing anything in stealth here at all. My goals are open and
stated. I told you months ago that I would help test pnet and try and
get some understanding of it. That have not changed.

I have not talked about the introspector much, if find strange that you
seem to have fear of it.  The aguments about function bodies are very
very weak because it is just a 5 line patch to the gcc to turn that on.

Did you know that the dump translation unit has full support for
function body dumping already? All the node types that make up
expressions are handled. All I do is turn them on. It is really funny
to see the Hypocrisy and FUD in free software projects like the GCC,
and Rhys you seem to be falling into some the the FUD traps yourself.

The whole point of the introspector is to make a framework for
understanding code and visualization, for providing access to the
internal information. You support projects from Microsoft that do the
similar things like Reflection and Reflection.Emit. 

The work on the c++ parser from markus and Binge project is very
similar
to the introspector, but you seem to not make an issue out of that. 

So, please dont bother me about the introspector unless you have
anything that is well researched to say. 

Inform yourself about the facts, and then decide.

> If you cannot do this, then I suggest that
> you 
> unsubscribe from the DotGNU mailing lists and leave.

There you go again. So you dont appreciate my bug reports either? Sure
my patches may not be up to your scratch. 

I think that I have proven myself to be a solid bug finder and have
helped with some things in the project. Just 3 months ago you were
complaining that you are lacking contribution, well if you are going to
try and kick peoples ideas out for no good reason, then I can see why
people would shun contribution.

Really rhys, it is way to late for me to leave, I have put the work
into understanding and testing and installing and supporting, and
promoting dotgnu. 

Many people will be using Pnet for non-free software projects, you dont
complain about that? Implementing MS namespaces, no problem. But doing
somthing new and creative, something that you may not understand, that
seems to trigger a FUD reaction in you. Please inform yourself and come
up with better aguments and solid facts before you criticize my efforts
with the introspector.

mike

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James Michael DuPont
http://introspector.sourceforge.net/

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