Re: [gfsd]Re: gas/binutils (a.k.a. we really suck sometimes)

[Hugo Gayosso]

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Phillip Rulon <address@hidden> writes:

>    From: Richard Stallman <address@hidden>
>    CC: address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden, address@hidden
>    Reply-to: address@hidden
>    Date: Thu, 16 Nov 2000 13:24:48 -0700 (MST)
> 
>        We should merge: http://www.gnu.org/software (as I said in a previous
>        mail) with the Free Software Directory.
> 
>    I think this is ultimately the right thing to do, at least for the
>    non-GNU packages.
> 
> I think this is ultimately the right thing to do for everything we offer.
> It's important to to integrate the GNU system as much as we can.  One
> way to do that is by indexing and documenting it cohesively.

I agree 100% in the "cohesively" adjective, according to my latest
study and poll (among my co-workers, friends, etc.) the people doesn't
see GNU as an operating system, just as a bunch of tools, mainly: GCC,
and the GNU version of tar, awk, etc.




>        And we should also merge all the pages:
>        http://www.gnu.org/software/PACKAGE into the Free Software Directory
>        too. Why having three different entities is a good idea?
> 
>    This is not a useful thing to do.  The directory points to the web
>    pages for each program, but those pages are never inside the
>    directory.  For a GNU program, the actual pages have to go somewhere,
>    and that somewhere is http://www.gnu.org/software/PACKAGE.  So this
>    should not be changed.
> 
> I disagree, I believe, in this period, that the directory should serve as
> an axis about which the GNUism of a project revolves.  Each aspect of a
> package that relates to GNU should be available through the directory.
> 
> You're treating the directory as a pure metadata archive.  That's a
> valuable thing for the rest of the world, but it doesn't leverage
> GNU as a huge contributor to the Free Software movement.  We might
> be missing an opportunity thereby.

I don't see your point here Phillip, I agree in that the directory
should be metadata and the actual software webpage should offer more
information.


>        Then we should recruit webmasters to maintain those pages (as somebody
>        from webmasters pointed it out before),
> 
>    The package maintainer is supposed to maintain them, but in many cases
>    they do it wrong.
> 
> These are weird arguments, since they don't refute each other.  Why not
> imagine doing both using the directory as a facilitator.  Have the web
> people work with the package maintainers to DTRT.

As I said the maintainer will be *REQUIRED* to create the XML file,
and a script would create a basic web page and the entry for the Free
Software Directory, if either the maintainer or any of the webmasters
want to make the web page more vivid, they could do it as long as they
follow the guidelines created by the webmasters.

Greetings,
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Hugo Gayosso
GNU Volunteer Coordinator
http://www.gnu.org
http://hgayosso.linuxave.net
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