Re: Incentives for review

[Jonathan McHugh]

Hi Simon,

I had noticed Woof and it does seem interesting and worthy of analysis.

I should point out that the Ogmode community have the same problems and 
complaints regarding the governance and efficacy of issue/bug tracking. This is 
a socio-technological problem, which hopefully has solutions which can cut 
across communities.

Its also worth citing some of the suggestions in this devel-guix thread 
concerning tooling or options:
https://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/guix-devel/2021-08/msg00042.html

Suggestions included:
Bugs Everywhere https://bugs-everywhere.readthedocs.io/en/latest/
Git-Issue https://github.com/dspinellis/git-issue
Fossil https://fossil-scm.org/home/doc/trunk/www/bugtheory.wiki

IMHO, I though Bugs Everywhere was the most interesting, though it may have 
experienced some bitrot.


More recently I have been deliberating on the idea of using a MUD type tool as 
an interface for issue and bugtracking.

It seems that Powwow would be capable of using scripts in an interesting way.
https://www.hoopajoo.net/static/powwow-mirror/powwow/index.html
This interests me:
```
Powwow also implements the MUME remote editing protocol, which enables you to 
edit texts on the MUD using your own favourite editor, several texts at once if 
you have a windowing terminal. 
```
Im also investigating Tintin++
https://tintin.mudhalla.net/

I personally would find it interesting to create 'conversational models' for 
issue/bug tracking in such an environment, backed by:
* interoperability with computing environments
* interpreting infrastructure
* projectile style configurations
* supplementary protocols
* light writing formats
* configs and bindings to provide workflow

A MUD type inferface is perhaps only a speculative concern but Id be interested 
in hearing -/+ opinions and interest levels, if not practical suggestions.


As some may be aware, I have been considering the issue/bug tracking topic from 
the perspective of the Gemini protocol (though now with a wider scale than just 
comsidering Debbugs). 

That is proceeding, though I was impeeded by some physical setbacks 
(status:resolved) and completing wider responsibilities. Now back in the flow, 
I will provide updates once my projects start perculating.

@Arun please mail me privately regarding your plans, Id like to hear about 
where they may be intersections.

@Christine I look forward to replying to your (private) mail in due course - 
apoligies for radio silence. If you have suggestions regarding how Guix can go 
MUD Im sure we'd all be interested!

Kind regards,


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Jonathan McHugh
indieterminacy@libre.brussels

October 22, 2021 9:44 AM, "zimoun" <zimon.toutoune@gmail.com> wrote:

> Hi Arun,
> 
> On Thu, 21 Oct 2021 at 23:51, Arun Isaac <arunisaac@systemreboot.net> wrote:
> 
>> The way I see it, we are outgrowing general purpose bug trackers like
>> debbugs. We need a special purpose bug tracker specifically for Guix
>> with its special requirements. We are a big enough community for this to
>> be important.
> 
> For an example of such «special purpose bug tracker», give a look at
> what Org-mode people do:
> 
> <https://updates.orgmode.org>
> 
> Well, it is currently down. It looks like that:
> 
> <https://web.archive.org/web/20210228064154/https://updates.orgmode.org>
> 
> The code running it is Woof (lisp based):
> 
> <https://github.com/bzg/woof>
> 
> Maybe there are some ideas to borrow. :-)
> 
> Cheers,
> simon