Re: Small change request to the manual page "Building from Git"

[Mehmet Tekman]

Hello,

> Try "guix environment guix --pure guix" or "guix shell guix -D guix" instead.

Yes I understand, but the manual states that:

> The following command starts a new shell **where all the dependencies and 
> appropriate environment variables are set up to hack on Guix**:
> guix environment guix --pure

This gives the impression that everything needed for `make
authenticate' to work is included in the above command (and I guess it
would be on the native distro).

I think a small sentence mentioning the extra Guix dependency for
non-native users isn't completely unwarranted, or perhaps maybe a hint
in the linked "invoking guix environment" page?

> Despite the name on Reddit, the name is Guix, not GUIX.

Noted, thank you

> Also, assuming you have installed the Guix daemon with your foreign distro's 
> package manager, this is a bug in the foreign distro's packaging, see 
> <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012536> in case of Debian.
> You could ask your distro to do a similar fix.

Thanks, I'll report this to the package maintainer!

Best,
Mehmet



On Sun, 9 Oct 2022 at 11:08, Maxime Devos <maximedevos@telenet.be> wrote:
>
> On 06-10-2022 15:35, Mehmet Tekman wrote:
> > Hi there,
> >
> > I'd like to request some small changes be made on this page:
> >  > https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Building-from-Git.html
> > <https://guix.gnu.org/manual/en/html_node/Building-from-Git.html>
> >
> > 1. Authenticating on a foreign distro
> >
> > When at the "make authenticate" stage of the build process on a foreign
> > distro, this fails because it cannot find guix.
> > I think it's because the `guix environment guix --pure' command doesn't
> > include it, or obscures its path.
> >
> > As a workaround, I ran `PATH=/usr/local/bin/:$PATH make authenticate'
>
> "guix environment guix" only includes the dependencies of guix, not Guix
> itself.  Try "guix environment guix --pure guix" or "guix shell guix -D
> guix" instead.
>
> "guix environment guix --pure" does indeed 'obscure its path' -- that's
> what --pure is for, if you don't want that, don't include --pure.
>
> Both of these are independent of whether you are on a foreign distro or
> Guix System.
>
> > 2. Easy fix for failing `make check' tests
> >
> > I had a few failing tests on my foreign distro relating to setting locales.
> > Digging around led me to this reddit thread for the solution:
> >> https://old.reddit.com/r/GUIX/comments/jpq1uw/bashminimal507binbash_warning_setlocale_lc_all/
> >
> > Here they suggest running `sudo guix install glibc-locales` instead of as a 
> > user.
> > Maybe this should be mentioned, since I'm not the only one coming to GUIX 
> > from another distro.
>
> Despite the name on Reddit, the name is Guix, not GUIX.
>
> Also, assuming you have installed the Guix daemon with your foreign
> distro's package manager, this is a bug in the foreign distro's
> packaging, see
> <https://bugs.debian.org/cgi-bin/bugreport.cgi?bug=1012536> in case of
> Debian.  You could ask your distro to do a similar fix.
>
> Greetings,
> Maxime.