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Re: [Health] GNU HEALTH LIVE CD


From: Luis Falcon
Subject: Re: [Health] GNU HEALTH LIVE CD
Date: Wed, 18 Dec 2013 16:08:40 +0000
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Hi Constantine !
On 17/12/13 22:19, Kostis Mousafiris wrote:
> Hi Luis,
> thanks a lot for a truly extra-quick answer!t 
> 
> Let me try to sum my feelings up in a more concise way:
> I love free/libre software, so I will NOT be put off by just the amount
> of technical  knowledge required in order to set GNU Health correctly up
> and running.
> However, let us not forget that many others will just feel frightened/
> intimidated/ discouraged by the intricacies of the set up procedure....
> So, yes, I will go on and try again (not with openSuSE though :-)
> until I obtain a fully working version of it (and of course I will let
> the list participants know when I get there!)
Great !

Please report any issues you find in the process, so we can improve it
and make sure that work in as many Operating Systems.
> 
> On the other hand, despite I do agree with you that a "real-world"
> install should
> be done in a way that should indeed offer ample possibilities for a
> tailor-made set up,
> I still maintain that if we had a "live" pre-installed CD/DVD, it could
> be an excellent attraction
> for new comers to give it a go and become convinced that GNU Health does
> work
> and that it can live up to the challenge of organizing a robust health
> service.
> 
Agree. We need somebody from the community that will take that role. We
should have an ISO as per each new release, and always thinking of it as
a demo environment. We can include the current PG dump for that release.

All the best,
> Thanks again for giving some consideration to this discussion that I and
> Raymond brought up.
> Friendly regards and appreciation for your excellent work!
> 
> Constantine
> 
> On 17/12/2013 08:29 μμ, Luis Falcon wrote:
>> Dear Kostis and Raymond
>> On 16/12/13 17:02, Kostis Mousafiris wrote:
>>> Dear all,
>>> I am using Ubuntu and Debian as my two basic distros and so,
>>> I am all too hesitant in jumping into an entirely different distribution
>>> such as OpenSUSE....
>>> Despite my eagerness about GNU Health, I do not think I will embark onto
>>> OpenSUSE at all.
>>> I still remain of the same opinion as Raymond and I really feel that a
>>> live CD of a pre-installed instance of GNU Health
>>> would make it so much more appealing for people not-technically-adept to
>>> at least give it a go.
>>> Thanks however for listening to my thoughts.
>>>
>> We don't have a problem at all by having a version-dependent GNU Health
>> ISO (live CD / USB ), but I truly think that is best to use the
>> installation method on Wikibook.
>>
>> Large systems such as GNU Health have dependencies, operating system
>> specific instructions, database setup, Tryton configuration (ERP,
>> security, modules, updates, connectivity ... ) that need to be
>> addressed. This has lead me to put the focus on documenting the
>> installation.
>>
>> To test the system we have the Community Database and we also have the
>> database dumps for each release, so you can either connect via Internet
>> to the demo DB or install the DB locally.
>>
>> So, summing up, I think that for demo, we can make a Live CD / USB, but
>> for real world, production servers, the installation method should be
>> tailored to your needs, and to achieve that you need the use the
>> installation method from Wikibooks. Of course, there is room for
>> improvement in both the scripts and the documentation, and we are
>> working on both.
>>
>> Just my 2 cents :)
>>
>> Let me know your thoughts.
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>>
>>> Constantine
>>>
>>>
>>> On 16/12/2013 06:30 μμ, Raymond Omeni wrote:
>>>> Axel,
>>>>
>>>> I have waited for Kostis's response concerning ''the one-click''
>>>> installation of GNU Health on OpenSUSE to ascertain the ease of
>>>> installation on openSUSUE. But going by the instructions on the link
>>>> you provided in the email to Kostis, I would say it takes quite a
>>>> number of clicks to install GNU Health on OpenSUSE.
>>>>
>>>> Majority of those who are in position to evaluate and enventually
>>>> adopt GNU Health may not be people with horned skills in IT, therefore
>>>> if the installation involves too many technical details, there will be
>>>> a preference for an easier EMR installation.
>>>>
>>>>   I know it may require a lot of work from the GNU Health technical
>>>> crew but in my opinion(and I guess the opinion of many silent voices),
>>>> a live CD of pre-installed GNU Health with the option of installation
>>>> to hard disk is the way to go. This way, people can easily easily
>>>> evaluate GNU Health and decide whether to install it or not on hard
>>>> drive.
>>>>
>>>> Best regards,
>>>>
>>>> Raymond Omeni
>>>>  
>>>> On 12/1/2013 2:41 PM, Axel Braun wrote:
>>>>> Kostis,
>>>>>
>>>>> Am Sonntag, 1. Dezember 2013, 10:46:39 schrieb Kostis Mousafiris:
>>>>>> However, I have to admit defeat as all my attempts were
>>>>>> unsuccessful and
>>>>>> even when I asked for help from some more experienced people (with
>>>>>> GNU/Linux admin knowledge), we were not able to get it up and
>>>>>> running!!
>>>>> please give it a try and install GNU Health on openSUSE, as
>>>>> described here:
>>>>>  
>>>>> http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/GNU_Health/Operating_System-Specific_Notes#Installing_GNU_Health_on_openSUSE
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> My goal was to create an easy, dashboard-like installation.
>>>>> openSUSE is nowadays a one-click installation...gnu health should
>>>>> now be as
>>>>> well
>>>>> Give it a try and post your results
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks
>>>>> Axel
>>>>>
>>>>> PS: and pls use a valid Mailadress: <address@hidden> bounces with
>>>>> domain has no valid mail exchangers
>>
> 
> 
> 
> 


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