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Re: Issues with emacs
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Helmut Eller |
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Re: Issues with emacs |
Date: |
Mon, 25 Jun 2012 09:45:16 +0200 |
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Gnus/5.13 (Gnus v5.13) Emacs/24.1.50 (gnu/linux) |
* rusi [2012-06-25 05:51] writes:
> I believe that one of the biggest obstacles to widespread emacs
> adoption is (e)lisp.
> Unfortunately at this point the discussion invariably degenerates into
> a bad miscombination of technical and sociological framing.
>
> If the issue is technical, then encouraging development is out-of-
> bounds
> If the issue is social -- how to get today's kids interested in emacs
> -- and I start with the slogan LEARN ELISP -- I need to go to
> marketing kindergarten
I have my doubts that "kids" will make a better Emacs. IMO good
programs are usually built by experienced and skilled developers. I
don't think that it's accident that RMS wrote Emacs and GCC. To make a
better Emacs, we would need highly skilled (and probably well paid)
people. This is probably also the reason why Eclipse is successful: IBM
essentially killed the Smalltalk division for Eclipse. Those people
already knew what is needed for a good IDE before they came to Eclipse.
Helmut
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